Abortion Protesters Use Cameras, Raise New Legal Issues, Lawsuits

The Wall Street Journal ^ | Tuesday, May 28, 2002 | YOCHI J. DREAZEN

[TroutStalker]

DENVER -- As soon as he saw the blue minivan turning into the parking lot of Planned Parenthood's small abortion clinic here, Kenneth Scott grabbed his digital camera, clambered up his rickety metal ladder and started snapping pictures.

"You'll have nightmares about this day the rest of your life," he bellowed, photographing the blond woman gingerly leaving the minivan. Then he turned his camera to her escort. "Your sin won't be hidden or forgotten," he screamed.

[JMJ333]

What happens at conception if life doesn't begin? You want to change the definition because you think it is okay to discard human life if it happens to get in the way of free sex. There isn't anything self-righteous in my wanting you to stop that. It is asking for you to please consider having mercy. What is wrong with mercy?

[LiteKeeper]

Why isn't the media consistent? If one side is the "pro-life" or anti-abortion side, why can't we call the other side "pro-death" or pro-abortion side? On either side there is a "choice" that has to be made.

[MrB]

The most interesting thing about this article is how the lefties hung themselves with the courts.
The court ruling that the NAACP could use thug tactics to enforce a boycott will be used to thwart legal action against the anti-abortion activists.

Though I wouldn't doubt that the courts would rule one way with the NAACP and another way with the activists.

[LiteKeeper]

How can the desire to preserve a life be defined as "hate"?

[=Intervention=]

I'll bite. You profess to have the answer. When exactly does a human become a human (and ps...as others have pointed out, please define "human" in both instances here). Thanks...:)

[litany_of_lies]

I fail to see how this advances the pro-life cause, or how anyone will be persuaded to be pro-life as a result of these out-of-control tactics. It will only serve to harden hearts.

There is a BIG difference between this what Nuremberg is doing, which I support to an extent (I can do without crossing out the names when one dies or is murdered by a wacko). Nuremberg is publicizing the butchers, not the victims, and I hope their appeal wins with The Supremes.

Abortioncams will be out of business when someone goes into an abortion clinic, has their picture posted (and their address, phone number, driver's license, and their medical records, etc.), and sues because she changed her mind at the last moment. Now we're talking slander. When this happens, they will be toast.

[=Intervention=]

Jlog...you have consistently denigrated anyone who opposes you as being "holier than thou," and "self-righteous" but those are just ad hominem attacks. You don't have any evidence of a single person here actually BEING self-righteous, yet you continue to act as though somehow, mystically, you know that we are. Now, taking the term "self-righteous" at its face value, meaning a righteousness, or a correctness derived wholly from oneself and therefore, untenable and fake...then the only person here that has given evidence of being self-righteous is you.

[VRWC_minion]

Whom exactly would the pro-life people be hating again?

The doctors, the law, the politicians.

[geaux]

She suffered a cervical tear while a patient at the Hope Clinic in Granite City, Ill., and needed to be rushed to a hospital. As clinic staffers wheeled her toward a waiting minivan,

And they put her into a minivan instead of calling an ambulance because.....?

[=Intervention=]

You missed the point of the website -- shame. Medical records, date of birth, etc, all that is irrelevant. The point is publishing the names and faces of those who do things that society disapproves of.

[Wurlitzer]

"You self-rigtheous holier-than-thou types think you own the only possible definition. Well, you don't."

Ok! How many cells before we have a human? You make the call!

1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048......2^x-power?

All the instructions are in the first cell.

[Mamzelle]

Dumb tactic.

All it will take is one mistaken photo on the site, some picture of a woman who is not involved with the clinic, to shut this guy down and bankrupt him. ASMOF, the pro-aborts should do exactly that--send in a pic of a woman going into any doorway, claiming that she's an abortion seeker, letting the webster post it, then suing the webster for libel.

Better ways. I personally love the city-to-city trucks with the side ads show first trimester fetuses. Now THAT shows some real organization and nerve~~

[=Intervention=]

VRWC, you didn't read my post did you? Please read it again re: doctors. And you, who claim to have accepted Christ, then go and blame pro-lifers (the majority of whom are Christians) for hating? Hmm.

[chiefqc]

But it's 100% more risky to the defenceless little baby that just want's to be born.

[Diamond]

You jumped to quickly to square number two. Forget "re-defining." Start with "defining." You are smuggling an assumption that YOU own the original definition. Prove it.

OK, back on square one you used the word "human" twice in the phrase, "...when a human becomes a human...", which grammatically speaking, produces the incoherent and unintelligible corollary that there can be a human being who is not a human being. It is self-contradictory and self-refuting.

Cordially,

[Bump in the night]

That's wrong and you know it. The women having their picture taken are not haters in any imaginable sense of the word. The simply do not agree with you about the definition of when a human becomes a human. That is a reasonable thing to disagree about.

No, it is these sort of self-righteous haters who can tolerate no disagreement -- who only seek to bring harm to those they disagree with.

I feel sorry for the women who have to face these hate mongers. It is very sad that hate mongers like this exist.

Couldn't agree with you more!

[VRWC_minion]

What is our Christian duty ?

[=Intervention=]

Yup. It's an awful, terrible thing to have folks praying for you and trying to dissuade you from murder. Gotta stop that free speech stuff right now! No free speech around abortuaries! Civil liberties people will all see the light and support this position in the end, right? I mean we all know that you're not allowed to have free speech when it really counts, right?

[=Intervention=]

First, be truthful. Don't go around spreading falsehoods about your brothers and sisters.

[weegee]

Let's also put cameras in front of all the strip clubs and gay joints in every town in America, than show the pictures of the customers on the internet.

There already are feminists and angry wives who are photographing customers and IDing cars at strip joints and posting said information on the web.