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Dang! I may not make it 20 more years...and I really did want to see a Mars landing.
1 posted on 05/27/2002 4:23:27 PM PDT by blam
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It certainly would be a good thing if we could get to Mars. The human race is going to eventually need some alternatives to Earth and while Mars is just a tiny step, it's one that is necessary. Perhaps someday we will have the technology to turn the atmosphere on Mars into one fit for human life. If not, Mars would be a great place to experiment.
2 posted on 05/27/2002 4:31:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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The average recorded temperature on Mars is -63° C (-81° F)

So, I think Russian astronauts from Siberia should be contracted out by NASA to do the landing.

3 posted on 05/27/2002 4:35:01 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Life on Mars?
4 posted on 05/27/2002 4:36:38 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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I nominate Sheila Jackson-Lee for a one-way trip! She thinks we've already landed on Mars.
9 posted on 05/27/2002 4:40:59 PM PDT by lonestar
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More about Mars and Water
10 posted on 05/27/2002 4:46:51 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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"You're blowing my cover! I tell you, there is water on Mars! I'm a secret agent! They will kill you all!"

11 posted on 05/27/2002 4:48:54 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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I seriously doubt if NASA will make such an announcement, this week or any time soon. I think that this is wishful thinking, or confusion, on the part of the reporter.
13 posted on 05/27/2002 4:54:03 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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Hang in there. It may be sooner than you think.

There are recently released contracts to develope UAVs to do low level recon flights above the Martian surface.

May not be a manned landing but each of these little critters could return up to one hour of high resolution, color video shot as low as ten meters above the surface while limping along at up to 300 knots.

These UAVs are to be ready for launch before 43 faces reelection.

15 posted on 05/27/2002 5:08:36 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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Anyone want to comment on the Pathfinder mission? Did they forget to look for water when we had a probe on the surface?
16 posted on 05/27/2002 5:13:15 PM PDT by ZOOKER
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blam...

I for sure wont make it but surely it will be our second step taken into space.

18 posted on 05/27/2002 5:15:18 PM PDT by cynicom
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"Scientists believe the hydrogen is locked inside crystals of ice."

yeah, inside the water too! Oxygen too! I love the press!

23 posted on 05/27/2002 6:07:12 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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>>The discovery of water was made by gamma-ray and neutron spectrometers which measure gamma-ray emanations and other evidence of the presence of hydrogen. Scientists believe the hydrogen is locked inside crystals of ice. The paper submitted by Mr Reedy and his colleague Bill Feldman will provide the most detailed map yet of the chemical composition of Mars' surface.

Yeah? What if all that hydrogen is in hydrogen sulfide instead of water? Not only would the astronauts have no way to get back, but they'd be doomed to spend the rest of their lives on a planet that smells like a giant fart.

27 posted on 05/27/2002 6:38:25 PM PDT by pabianice
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Dang! I may not make it 20 more years...and I really did want to see a Mars landing.

Me,too! I even joined the Planetary Society so I could make sure I got to sign petitions to encourage Mars and other space exploration.

29 posted on 05/27/2002 6:57:42 PM PDT by sneakypete
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The Independent is playing fast and loose with its headlines. The headline suggests that NASA is definitely going to Mars, following a major discovery of water:

Nasa to head for Mars after water is found everywhere

The body of the article, however, says something very different:

In a paper for the journal Science, two scientists in Los Alamos involved with the mission will present evidence that ice lies about a metre beneath the surface over a large area.

There were "features that suggest water, or something like water, everywhere," Bob Reedy, one of the authors, told the Albuquerque Journal last week. "Yet today there's no water on the surface. Where did all that water go?"

This week Jim Garvin, the head of the US space agency's Mars exploration programme is expected to announce that, on the basis of the existence of accessible water on the planet, his agency is aiming to make a manned landing there within the next 20 years.

Seems to me there are far too many qualifications and "ifs" to merit the rather breathless headline. Two scientists (of hundreds, I'm guessing) who are "involved with the mission" (as opposed to heading it) "will present evidence" that there are "features that suggest water, "or something like water" about a meter below the surface. James Garvin is "expected to announce that, on the basis of accessible water on the planet [in other words, we need definitive proof], his agency is aiming to make a manned landing there within the next 20 years."

This doesn't make me want to book my reservations to the red planet just yet. And anyway, how many bajillion dollars did we spend on that little remote-controlled rover which determined, as best I can recall, that there are many rocks of various sizes and shapes, and varying in color from reddish brown to brownish red, on the surface of Mars?

31 posted on 05/27/2002 7:03:47 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
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They have had a plan since the '70s to hit Mars. With enough political will it could happen in a few years. Get on your elected politicians and let's get going!
37 posted on 05/27/2002 7:19:30 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Breath slower, you will make it, as this is a tremendous discovery and would be a great national mission as even greater discoveries will be made along the way. Without haste, America should proceed full steam ahead to Mars!
39 posted on 05/27/2002 7:33:22 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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Those crafty LGM (little green men ) keep moving the water. A century ago, it was in the "canals"; a few decades ago, it was in polar ice caps; now it's hidden under the surface of the planet. Yeah, that's the ticket...
40 posted on 05/27/2002 7:34:59 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
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"...water, or something like water

Careful, it could be Ice Nine.

42 posted on 05/27/2002 7:38:08 PM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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Dang! I may not make it 20 more years...and I really did want to see a Mars landing.

All that pristine water up there on Mars, and no brewery or distillery within millions of miles?

Let's get private enterprise involved! Forget NASA! Let's get Busch, Coors, Napa Valley wineries, and Jack Daniels involved in sponsoring missions to Mars! Who wouldn't want an ice cold Coors brewed from the fresh mountain waters of Olympus Mons?

43 posted on 05/27/2002 7:42:52 PM PDT by Jay W
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"NASA IS poised to announce its firmest plans yet to send men to Mars within 20 years, following the stunning discovery of huge quantities of water-ice close to the planet's surface."

Not a chance.

I work in the aerospace industry. And I have finally resigned myself to the fact that no human interplanetary missions will occur in my lifetime--probably in the next 50 years, unless the Japanese or some other nation picks up the torch we dropped.

Never doubt it: we have lost the "right stuff" and all our efforts will shortly be diverted to a life-or-death struggle with the Islamic world.

One more major terrorist strike (such as, e.g., bringing down the Sears tower in Chicago or the Golden Gate Bridge or...) will do it.

NASA is finished. In 5 years I expect its budget to be ~$5 billion. Eventually they will lose another shuttle (pure statistics) and that will be the end of manned spaceflight.

--Boris

48 posted on 05/27/2002 9:00:22 PM PDT by boris
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