[RogerFGay]

Because enforcement is the root of the problem.

I have to tell you that I'm leaning the same way as William Terrell in post #108. Your statement suggests that you haven't read any of my posts, even though I've taken the time to give longer more detailed explations.

I'm going to assume just a short bit longer that you might be young and there are a few things you haven't figured out yet, and you have some personal "issues" to deal with. But I don't know yet how much longer.

A couple of comments on your 100% rule. What are you willing to give up personally to make that happen? Would you be willing to spend the rest of your life in a forced labor camp, under maximum control (whatever that is and whatever it takes) along with everyone else in the world, to assure that nobody would break the rules? With everyone subjugated in such a camp, who would run it, who would enforce the rules? And secondly, don't you just want your situation fixed? 100% doesn't really matter does it?

Tech. note: maximum verses optimum (look it up)

HINT:

Main Entry: op·ti·mum
Pronunciation: 'äp-t&-m&m
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural op·ti·ma /-m&/; also -mums
Etymology: Latin
Date: 1879
1 : the amount or degree of something that is most favorable to some end; especially : the most favorable condition for the growth and reproduction of an organism
2 : greatest degree attained or attainable under implied or specified conditions
- optimum adjective

[discostu]

If you actually stopped twisting words and responded to what was actually being said instead of what you want the person to say this could have been settled peacefully in two posts two days ago.

You've consistently ignored my repeated stated position as to WHY enforcement is important (again, because in a wide open system people are more obligated to pay their electric bill than child support). You're continuing to ignore my proposed solution which would kick the fed out AND give a level of useful enforecement.

I'm forced to think you have alterior motives. That in truth you do want a wide open system that allows men to walk away from familial obligations. What is so terribly wrong with holding people responsible for the debt that they've incurred. I've thuroughly read all of your stuff, and yes I agree that the federal program is bad. Again why is it I can admit the areas where you're right but you find it so difficult to admit somebody else might be right? Took me half a day to get you to admit that there really are deadbeat dads. Apparently there's no way to get you to admit that actual deadbeat dads should have to pay their debts just like any other deadbeat.

And as for you and William if you'd actually read your history books you'd find that the economic system that allows for the greatest strivings towards perfection is capitalism; communism/ socialism produced 3rd rate garbage when it produced anything at all. So as for what I'd be willing to give up the answer is NOTHING, giving things up means no longer striving for perfection. Perfection means having your cake and eating it too. We can never get there, but that doesn't mean it's not worth trying.