Posted on 05/22/2002 8:24:29 PM PDT by blam
Lying is cultural trait of Arabs, says Barak
Brian Whitaker in Jerusalem
Thursday May 23, 2002
The Guardian
Palestinians have no compunction about telling lies and see truth as irrelevant, the former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak has claimed in an interview. "They are products of a culture in which to tell a lie... creates no dissonance," Mr Barak says. "They don't suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judaeo-Christian culture."
"Truth is seen as an irrelevant category," he says."There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn't. They see themselves as emissaries of a national movement for whom everything is permissible. There is no such thing as 'the truth'."
Interviewed by the Jewish historian Benny Morris for an article in the latest issue of the New York Review of Books, Mr Barak not only relates his comments about lying to Yasser Arafat in particular, but to Arab society in general.
He says: "The deputy director of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation once told me that there are societies in which lie detectors don't work, societies in which lies do not create cognitive dissonance [on which the tests are based]."
As an example of Mr Arafat's alleged mendacity, Mr Barak cites an incident in October 2000, shortly after the start of the intifada. The Israeli and Palestinian leaders, together with Madeleine Albright, the US secretary of state at the time, were meeting in Paris to discuss a ceasefire.
Mr Arafat had agreed to call a number of his police commanders to implement a truce.
Mr Barak recalls protesting: "'But these are not the people organising the violence. If you are serious, then call Marwan Bargouti and Hussein al-Sheikh [two West Bank Fatah leaders].'
"Arafat looked at me, with an expression of blank innocence, as if I had mentioned the names of two polar bears, and said, 'Who? Who?'
"So I repeated the names, this time with a pronounced, clear Arabic inflection... and Arafat again said, 'Who? Who?'
"At this, some of his aides couldn't stop themselves and burst out laughing. And Arafat, forced to drop the pretence, agreed to call them later."
If there is a false word in your post I have not found it.
Islam is a poor excuse for a religion.
BTTT
As if this is a news flash?
Anyone who has negotiated a business contract (as I have) with people of this culture can validate that they lie.
The senior negotiator will lie to your face, when he knows he is lying, his underlings know he is lying and they know that you know he is lying. This is how they negotiate so as to get what they want. Only until such time that you refuse to grant any further concessions will the deal be done.
It should be noted, that one of his underlings will also confirm the lie to you in private (during a break in discussions). Usually to indicate that they do want to continue, in spite of the rigid position taken by the lead negotiator.
And after all is said and done, you will be hosted to a very gracious dinner and all is to be forgiven.
arthurus :
“Actually lying is very much an Asian characteristic. It is also a tribal trait where. Your tribe or, in the case of Moslems, your religion is the entire legitimate world. Everything outside of your world is enemy and giving them true information is giving the enemy power over you. Within these societies the dynamic works at the level of the clan and the family also. There is no desire to work with other groups because you must not give those others power over you. Other groups are tolerated so long as it is necessary and displaced when possible.
That description is a little extreme for some and right on for others such as Moslems and Hindus (people indigineous toIndia, whatever their religion) but to some extent it applies to Asians and North Africans in general”
That is nothing but a filthy slanderous prejudiced lie. Besides Asia is not synonymous with these scumbag arab muslims. These vermin hail from the middle-east and should have stayed in that shithole, their presence in the rest of the asian region is very much unwanted and uninvited. All religion is a lie, there are no elysium fields, no valhallas, no heaven and no fucking hell.
There has never been or will there ever be a pedophile scumbag messiah named muhammad, or a super jew named jesus, or indian-originated garbage buddha.
Islam first and foremost being the most vile despicable attempt at indoctrination and brain-washing that ever came out of the sick minds of this filthy lying greedy jew-iranian-middle-east scumbags.
arthurus :
“Actually lying is very much an Asian characteristic. It is also a tribal trait where. Your tribe or, in the case of Moslems, your religion is the entire legitimate world. Everything outside of your world is enemy and giving them true information is giving the enemy power over you. Within these societies the dynamic works at the level of the clan and the family also. There is no desire to work with other groups because you must not give those others power over you. Other groups are tolerated so long as it is necessary and displaced when possible.
That description is a little extreme for some and right on for others such as Moslems and Hindus (people indigineous toIndia, whatever their religion) but to some extent it applies to Asians and North Africans in general”
That is nothing but a filthy slanderous prejudiced lie. Besides Asia is not synonymous with these scumbag arab muslims. These vermin hail from the middle-east and should have stayed in that shithole, their presence in the rest of the asian region is very much unwanted and uninvited. All religion is a lie, there are no elysium fields, no valhallas, no heaven and no fucking hell.
There has never been or will there ever be a pedophile scumbag messiah named muhammad, or a super jew named jesus, or indian-originated garbage buddha.
Islam first and foremost being the most vile despicable attempt at indoctrination and brain-washing that ever came out of the sick minds of this filthy lying greedy jew-iranian-middle-east scumbags.
I believe that islam even condones lying especially to infidels and especially if the lie somehow promotes, defends and supports islam.
Taqqiyah is the name for that IIRC.
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