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Border Patrol agent fired on
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 5/22/02 | Tim Steller

Posted on 05/22/2002 7:50:11 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

Tucson, Arizona Wednesday, 22 May 2002

Border Patrol agent fired on
Says Mexican soldier was the shooter; ID disputed by officials

By Tim Steller
ARIZONA DAILY STAR

Investigators are trying to confirm whether it was a Mexican soldier who shot at a U.S. Border Patrol agent Friday night on the Tohono O'odham Nation.

An agent reported coming across three heavily armed Mexican soldiers riding in a Humvee near Papago Farms, about 90 miles southwest of Tucson.

The agent said he drove away, but a shot ripped through the windows of his Border Patrol vehicle as he fled.

Mexican officials said Tuesday they think the shooter was not a soldier. The local garrisons along the Sonora-Arizona border reported they had nobody in the area, said Roberto Rodriguez Hernandez, the director of protection and consular affairs for the Mexican Ministry of Foreign Relations.

The incident came at a delicate time in U.S.-Mexican relations. Mexican President Vicente Fox warned the Bush administration May 9 that he could not maintain the close relationship he has had with the United States unless there is progress on resolving immigration issues. On Saturday, members of Congress told Mexican lawmakers during a binational meeting not to expect any progress on immigration before the fall elections.

On May 3, following a visit to Arizona, Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., called on Fox to explain why Mexican law-enforcement and military officials made 23 incursions into U.S. territory in 2001.

Friday's incident may not have been an official incursion, but rather a case of criminals using military uniforms, said Rodriguez Hernandez, the former Mexican consul in Nogales, Ariz. Lawbreakers have used military and police uniforms in recent years along this stretch of border, he said.

But the agent who reported receiving gunfire was certain he saw soldiers, said Edward "Bud" Tuffly, the president of the agents' union in Southern Arizona.

"The agent was able to identify their attire down to a T, and it matched exactly what they (Mexican soldiers) wear," Tuffly said.

Officials of the U.S., Mexican and Tohono O'odham governments released few details of Friday's incident, but it appears the alleged incursion began Friday afternoon. About 4 p.m., a Tohono O'odham police ranger reported being chased by men in a Humvee in the Papago Farms area, Tuffly said. The ranger asked the Border Patrol for assistance, but the encounter ended without incident.

Alexandra Terry, the executive assistant for the Tohono O'odham Nation, would only confirm "there was an incident on the border" involving Tohono O'odham police and Border Patrol agents at about 4 p.m. Friday.

The agent who reported the gunfire knew of this earlier incident when he started work Friday, Tuffly said. It was dark when the agent, stationed on a hill north of the border, saw headlights about four miles away, Tuffly said.

A report on the incident obtained by the Arizona Daily Star describes it this way:

The agent drove closer to the border until he saw headlights coming toward him. The approaching vehicle was within 100 yards of the agent when he recognized it as a military Humvee with three soldiers standing in the back carrying assault rifles.

Seeing the soldiers, the agent made a U-turn and fled the area, only to hear glass shatter and realize a soldier had shot at him. Then he sped off in a panic and became disoriented before arriving on Federal Route 21, north of Papago Farms and meeting up with other agents. It was after 8:30 p.m.

The report says the agent was on the U.S. side of the border, but it does not say where the Mexican Humvee was.

Tuffly said the agent has less than a year's experience and was shaken by the incident. A bullet entered the vehicle through a right rear window, hit the metal prisoner partition in the vehicle, and went out through a driver's-side window, Tuffly said.

Tuffly questioned why the U.S. government was slow to acknowledge the incident publicly and he said in an online message to union members that he expects "the politicians will run like hell to avoid 'offending' anyone."

It took until Tuesday afternoon for the Immigration and Naturalization Service to issue a statement confirming the incident, including the Mexican military's possible involvement.

"Protecting our agents has always been our primary concern," the statement said.

Ron Sanders said incursions by Mexican soldiers and police were common when he was chief of the Border Patrol's Tucson sector, from 1995 to 1999. But he could not recall a Mexican soldier firing shots in Southern Arizona. The last time he could recall soldiers firing shots at agents was in March 2000, when Border Patrol agents in New Mexico received gunfire from soldiers who had crossed the border.

Friday's incident occurred near a smuggling hot spot. In April, U.S. Customs Service agents seized 22,000 pounds of marijuana from an organization using that corridor for smuggling, said Kyle Barnette, the associate special agent in charge of customs' Tucson office. Customs agents also shot a smuggling suspect in that area.

Mexican soldiers have been caught many times corruptly helping drug smugglers. But they have also served as Mexico's top troops in the drug war, scoring important gains such as the arrest in March of the most-wanted kingpin, Benjamin Arrellano Felix.

Mexican officials said the army and other government bodies are conducting an in-depth investigation of the incident.

"It is too premature to say what really happened," said Carlos Gonzalez Magallon, the Mexican consul in Nogales, Ariz.

Sanders and Tuffly said they hope responsible Mexican officials are held to as high a standard as Border Patrol agents. Sanders said he fired three agents for crossing into Mexico during his tenure.

"In my career, I never knew of anyone that Mexican officials punished for coming into the United States," Sanders said.

Said Tuffly: "When we do something, the Mexican government demands total accountability. That's fine, but we should have the same thing."

* Contact reporter Tim Steller at 434-4086 or steller@azstarnet.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: crime; illegalimmigration; invasion; mexico; military; nationalsecurity
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To: bok
And when the mine kills some kid, and the media go into a frenzy, how do you handle that?
21 posted on 05/22/2002 8:57:41 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
And when the mine kills some kid, and the media go into a frenzy, how do you handle that?

How do you handle 8-12 million illegal aliens overrunning the country? Canifornia isn't handling it too well. The state is teetering on the edge of collapse. Message to Mexico: Stay safe. Don't sneak in here or it might be your final trip to anywhere.

22 posted on 05/22/2002 9:04:32 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
FIRE BACK, GOD DAMMIT!

23 posted on 05/22/2002 9:07:04 AM PDT by Jethro Tull
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To: Tancredo Fan
And when the mine kills some kid, and the media go into a frenzy, how do you handle that?

How do you handle 8-12 million illegal aliens overrunning the country?

In other words, you DON'T handle the media frenzy, the mines get removed, and we have the massive illegal immigration problem all over again.

24 posted on 05/22/2002 9:13:33 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Tancredo Fan
"A "heads should be rolling inside the beltway soon" bump.

Don't hold you breath for that one. No one wants to 'offend' the mexican voters. Either side of the isle.

25 posted on 05/22/2002 9:13:53 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: Jethro Tull
With what? The 9MM peashooter service pistol?
26 posted on 05/22/2002 9:15:14 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
My thoughts exactly.

And by the way, the administration that does that will get their butts kicked the following November. Then there is the lawsuit.

Better to buy Predator UAVs to help with border surveillance, and use the agents in groups of four to do the roundups after you double the size of the Border Patrol.

27 posted on 05/22/2002 9:19:42 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: Poohbah
I wouldn't go up agaist three guys with a rifle if I had a .44 Magnum! No, two agents minimum, and both have access to rifles. Mini-14s, AR-15s, just a decent rifle.
28 posted on 05/22/2002 9:21:09 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
That, and we need to punish those businesses and individuals who hire illegal aliens.

The problem is that those individuals are "valued and esteemed citizens" because of their bribes campaign contributions.

29 posted on 05/22/2002 9:21:31 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Tancredo Fan
Mexico needs to be "corrected" once and for all.

Agreed. Thanks for the flag.

30 posted on 05/22/2002 9:23:30 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: hchutch
I know the US Army was experimenting with a countersniper weapons system that consisted of a radar to track the incoming bullets and a .50 caliber machinegun in an automatic turret to neutralize the shooter. Mount this on the vehicle, throw it into full auto Aegis mode, and watch as the first Mexican Army Humvee gets lit up with .50 API...
31 posted on 05/22/2002 9:25:08 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
I agree. The only way to make it really stick is if we give some sort of "out" so that we can say there was a chance for anyone who hired an illiegal immigrant to go legit (i.e. track ones currently working in the U.S. to a guest worker program as long as they agreed to learn Enlighs and had no criminal record). Anyone caught with one after that would have been warned.

But try selling THAT to some folks here, and they say you favor "open borders".

32 posted on 05/22/2002 9:26:04 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: Poohbah
Sounds like an idea, but I'd keep it at 7.62 NATO for Border patrol applications. It'd be smaller for the pickups they use.
33 posted on 05/22/2002 9:27:51 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
Someone shoots at the agent, we shoot back, and make sure our aim is better.

Nothing to add here...My nephew is a border patrol in AZ...I would hope he remembers the gun training his dad and I gave him as a youth...

FMCDH

34 posted on 05/22/2002 9:28:43 AM PDT by nothingnew
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To: Poohbah
Poobah, it's good to see that you're coming around.
35 posted on 05/22/2002 9:29:41 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
I favor that, too. I just draw the line at deporting people who only want a better future. Those illegals should have a chance to be tracked into any guest worker program we develop.

And for that, I position, I've taken a ton of crap.

36 posted on 05/22/2002 9:31:10 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: FreedomFriend
It's been my policy the whole time. But a some of the folks with "American Patrol" bumper stickers prominently on their trucks are the biggest hirers of non-English-speaking day laborers in San Diego. And I have been told that "these people who hire day laborers are VICTIMS, and shouldn't be punished for violating labor laws."
37 posted on 05/22/2002 9:33:28 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: hchutch
And for that, I position, I've taken a ton of crap.

Why do we need guest workers? How about the anchor baby nightmare that makes many 'guest workers' permanent?

38 posted on 05/22/2002 9:35:16 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Poohbah
Did I happen to see you on the Free Britannia forum? A Grover character?
39 posted on 05/22/2002 9:39:00 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Tancredo Fan
That's a problem, and quite frankly, it will not be an easy one to solve, because the 14th Amendment makes anyone born in the U.S. a citizen, and as such, they have rights.

We'll need to figure something out on that front, consistent with the Constitution. I don't have any ideas to solve that problem, to be honest. Sorry, I don't have all the answers.

40 posted on 05/22/2002 9:39:10 AM PDT by hchutch
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