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Not only is Bellesisles going down, he's taking some of his friends with him.
1 posted on 05/20/2002 4:08:36 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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Do you hear that? I guess not, but it's the sound of a very,very, tiny violin playing "Hearts and flowers".Hehe!
2 posted on 05/20/2002 4:12:53 PM PDT by tet68
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"By contrast, a review of briefs supporting Emerson shows no similar group of historians engaged in such intense advocacy for the Standard Model or making a similarly strong attack on the “collective right” interpretation."

The author makes some good points but he makes the assumption that both the standard and collective models evolved simultaneously. It's not called the standard model for nothing. Most of the scholarship behind the standard model was developed many long years ago. It took no recent funding to develop this model. The collective model is a relative new comer only being developed in the past few years to support the objective of the gun control community who had to undermine the second amendment to achieve their objectives. IOW, the collective model starts with a conclusion, there is no individual right, and then starts to develop a theory to support that belief. That's why it needs so much work. That and the fact that it is fundamentally flawed.

6 posted on 05/20/2002 4:21:30 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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Bellesiles's problems should blow wide gaping holes in gun control. They all took an inaccurate work to base their position on without looking into it at all and they deserve what they get.
The ship is sinking and the rats are too dumb to even jump off. Let 'em drown.
Clayton Cramer specifically addresses "Arming America"
7 posted on 05/20/2002 5:02:26 PM PDT by philman_36
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This goes far beyond Bellesiles. The radical-Left university history professor intelligencia's dogged refusal to examine or criticize Bellesiles' lies means public disclosure of their Marxist agenda and an end to any influence they might have had. Good riddance.
10 posted on 05/20/2002 5:59:11 PM PDT by pabianice
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Aside from Bellesiles, can you imagine a better target for pro-Second Amendment supporters than a guy named Bogus?
11 posted on 05/20/2002 10:01:04 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining
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For those of you with Lexis or Westlaw, the cite for the Chicago-Kent Law Review, Symposium on the Second Amendment: Fresh Looks, is:

76 CHI.-KENT L. REV. 1-715 (2000).

I'll be surprised if anyone cites to it again, and I intend to tell the faculty advisor as much this fall.

13 posted on 05/20/2002 10:20:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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