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Armed with facts: John Ashcroft's move on gun rights follows the Founders' lead
WORLD Magazine ^ | 5/25/02 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 05/20/2002 2:20:04 PM PDT by Caleb1411

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1 posted on 05/20/2002 2:20:05 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: bang_list
Disarming America fraud Michael Bellesiles take note...
2 posted on 05/20/2002 2:38:20 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: Caleb1411
For freedom....


3 posted on 05/20/2002 2:55:31 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: Joe Brower
FYI Ping
4 posted on 05/20/2002 3:03:34 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: Caleb1411
There is much more documented in the 1982 report (available through the Government Printing Office). Every citizen should read and study it

Please identify the document so we can obtain and read it. Thank you.

5 posted on 05/20/2002 3:34:46 PM PDT by J Jay
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The web site according to the story by Cal Thomas that was in the Sunday edition of the Florida Times Union is, http://www.constitution.org/mil/rkba1982.htm
6 posted on 05/20/2002 3:48:03 PM PDT by Ferndina
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To: 45Auto
speachless...

Less see, it's right click, then set as wallpaper.

7 posted on 05/20/2002 3:52:49 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Caleb1411
The 1982 repost is here
8 posted on 05/20/2002 4:02:19 PM PDT by chainsaw
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To: Caleb1411
Cal Thomas does NOT arm us with two very important facts on the Ashcroft decisions position:

1]. -- ALL existing gun laws are to be enforced as written, and further 'regulations' are seen as feasible.

2]. -- The administration is opposed to the USSC review of Emerson, which could establish the 2nd as an individual right, as it is written, thus negating hundreds of federal & state laws that infringe the RKBA's.

9 posted on 05/20/2002 4:06:30 PM PDT by tpaine
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Exactly. The administration does not want the US SC to define what is meant by "shall not be infringed".
10 posted on 05/20/2002 4:09:04 PM PDT by 45Auto
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I for one, would like to see the USSC rule on the Emerson case. SCOTUS has been dodging the 2nd amendment since the Miller case.
11 posted on 05/20/2002 4:10:01 PM PDT by RichT
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To: unix
For modesty,


12 posted on 05/20/2002 4:12:15 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: Caleb1411
Click here for an interesting look at what Madison proposed. In the original proposal it is very clear by the placement, grammar, and words that Madison believed in the individual right to bear arms James Madison Proposes the Bill of Rights to the House of Representatives
13 posted on 05/20/2002 4:17:09 PM PDT by Fzob
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Exactly. The administration does not want the US SC to define what is meant by "shall not be infringed".
10 posted by 45Auto

I for one, would like to see the USSC rule on the Emerson case. SCOTUS has been dodging the 2nd amendment since the Miller case.
11 posted by RichT

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Yep, this is a slick political ploy to pacify us 'gun nuts' with high sounding rhetoric; ---
--- while the federal/state 'business as usual' gun grab continues.

14 posted on 05/20/2002 4:18:21 PM PDT by tpaine
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This segment on NPR's "Talk of the Nation" was an interesting one. Among the guests were Prof. Eugene Volokh of UCLA and Prof. Akhil Amar of Yale. Amar made a comment that was particularly of interest. If I'm understanding him correctly, he holds that the original meaning of the 2nd Amendment is irrelevant. The 14th Amendment makes the right to keep and bear arms an individual one regardless of what the Founders' intentions were. (He also seemed to be agreeing with Volokh and others that the original intention was to preserve an individual right.)
15 posted on 05/20/2002 4:53:18 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: J Jay
There is a copy of this document in PDF format on my website HERE as well as many other docs on RKBA.
16 posted on 05/20/2002 5:11:29 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: JulieRNR21
Thanks for the flag, Julie. This column appeared in Sunday's Sarasota Herald-Tribune, and as such was the first PRO-gun column they've published year to date, a fact I noted when I emailed our favorite editors, Tom Tryon and Rosemary Armao.

My letter ripping a new one in Bob Herbert's hit-piece from a week ago got printed, too, along with another pro-gun letter, which I was glad to see. Wendy Dial, letters editor of the SHT, seems like a good lady, although I'm sure she must bow to her masters when they deem it fit...


17 posted on 05/20/2002 5:14:52 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: 45Auto
What a great set of...arms!
18 posted on 05/20/2002 5:20:16 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: unix
I would imagine their...ugh...guns are plastic too.
19 posted on 05/20/2002 5:32:06 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: 45Auto
The blonde with the CAR is kinda cute!
20 posted on 05/20/2002 5:43:10 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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