Posted on 05/19/2002 8:12:00 AM PDT by Gabz
Our whole life does not revolve around smoking, it revolves around busybody nannies.
And your claim of CLEAN air is nonsense, whether there is smoke or not, you are not breathing clean air.
LOL, You are getting quite pathetic.
I think it's a lot more sinister than that, my opinion is, they need for the kids to see, after all they are going to need more smokers in the future, or the government would have to go cold turkey on the taxes.
Anybody who ain't ready to shed the kid gloves and fight the Socialist RATS is an embarrassment to our forefathers who shed their blood so that we might be free!! This generation is forfeiting so much that previous generations fought to attain...it's time we ante'd up!!
FReegards...MUD
I wonder what percentage of people opposed to the government ban on smoking tobacco in businesses are content with the government ban on smoking marijuana anywhere?
Ya think? (but not second class enough to pay more taxes than most other people)
It won't fly because the government won't let you DO IT!
Seen any smokers airlines? NO? That's because the big brother govt says you CAN'T!
Beginning to get the picture?
LOL!!!!! (like me you mean?)
I'd love to know what the people at the Cancer Society are smoking with comments like that, because it sure ain't tobacco!!!
The only way they can guess how many smokers there are is based on tax revenues and their own surveys. If Delaware raises the cig tax like the Governor wants, there will be a huge decline in "packs sold" because the people that currently come to Delaware from MD, NJ & PA will stop buying them here. And more and more Delawre smokers will go with the roll-your-owns or buying via the internet.
Well, I didn't want to come right out and say it - But - Yeh.
If I lived in a state that had just basically outlawed my smoking anywhere except my home and my car, I'd be looking to move.
I live in the wild, wild West so I don't tend to factor in the "spillover" effect in the smaller states. Now that you bring it up, the last I remember anyone going out of state to buy anything around here was back in the '70s when Coors beer couldn't be sold in Oregon. I'm sure that those closer to the border hop over pretty regularly(both ways) to beat sales taxes or buy lottery tickets.
You've put a new spin on the way I'll look at the politics of the little Lib states of the Eastern seaboard. Thanks.
I'm sorry this response is a day late, I simply couldn't let these lies continue. Lewislynn, as well as anybody with a working knowledge of restaurants knows the difference between fast food and casual or fine dining. Here in Ca. lewislynn and his or her ilk have won the battle. In this state smoking is outlawed in all indoor business, some outdoor also.
The ban has led to a definite and noticeable increase in fast food, while a definite and noticeable decrease in casual, fine dine. Hell, remember the simple pleasure of coffee, breakfast, newspaper, an occasional smoke at your local cafe. I shall address more of the sad effects in a later thread.
That would paint an illustrative picture of what a pathetic life a smoker leads.
When your life is controlled by cigarettes to a point where you can't leave the house, or sit through a meal for fear you might not be able to smoke says more about how pathetic YOU are than what you might think it is that I desire for MY life.
Stay home, enjoy your pathetic smokes and the rest of us can enjoy real life.
Good God. What could I have said to illicit this convulsive, rabid behavior? Was it the coffee, newspaper, smoke statement?
2 privately owned new upscale thriving restaraunts (not FF) in our downtown, (one is less than one yr. old).
Less than one yr.old:
A new Chili's (chain), new Minnie's (chain).
An Olive Garden (chain) no room at the bar, with people waiting outside to get in,
An Outback (chain) no room at the bar, waiting outside to get in(Fri and Sat up to 45 min. wait,
A Hungry Hunter (chain) 30 minute wait,
A Black Angus (chain), 30 minute wait
Many other locally owned restaraunts doing just fine too. In fact a locally owned Mexican restaraunt has their 3rd restaurant under construction.....
No new FF, that I know of.
Sounds like you're right. Here are few things you should be aware of. Both Denny's and IHOP are losing customer share, I suspect it has some to do with a smoking ban, not all, some. From the sound of your post things are very good. It also sounds like you reside in or near a growing metropolitan area.
You concluded by stating, despite all this growth, no new fast food restaurants. I realize I'm a pathetic tobacco addicted social pariah, but does that make me stupid enough to believe the most incredible statement ever conceived by an enlightened soul? One last question: Have you ever worked in the private sector?
Being an ex-smoker, you would know that it's not a matter of "can't leave the house, or sit through a meal" and all that garbage you're carrying on with. It's a matter of don't want to go to a place where you can't have a smoke after your meal.
Every smoker I know, from time to time has to go to dinner somewhere where you can't have a smoke and they do just fine. The point is, they don't like doing it and, given a choice, they won't.
So, get over this crap about smokers being soooo addicted that they can't go out anymore.
If you have to play mental games with yourself about "how I feel so much better since I gave up", "Oh, I haven't got grey skin anymore", "Wow, look at those pearly-whites - not stained anymore", well that's fine. If that's your mantra and keeps you off the smokes, all well and good.
But, if you as an ex-smoker, now want to climb into a pair of jackboots and stomp all over current smokers, you are worse than never-smoked anti-smokers.
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