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Critics Say 'Star Wars:Episode 2-Attack of the Clones' Has Racial Stererotypes (Liberal Wacko Alert)
Detroit News.com ^ | May 18, 2002 | Michael H. Hodges

Posted on 05/18/2002 11:23:03 PM PDT by codebreaker

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:08:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

George Lucas, sometimes accused of reinforcing racial stereotypes with his movies, has done it again according to critics.

Latino critics in particular charge his latest Star Wars epic toys with American paranoia about Mexican immigration with its cloned army of swarthy lookalikes who march lockstep by the tens of thousands, and ultimately end up serving as Darth Vaders white suited warriors.


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To: codebreaker
I just saw it lastnight. The script and dialogue sucked!!! I hope his next film is a silent movie. What a waste of good visual effects. Hey George, hire a writer!!!!
141 posted on 05/20/2002 5:49:19 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: MadIvan
You and Ivan have way too much time on your hands.
142 posted on 05/20/2002 5:51:39 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: MadIvan
"Secondly, trying to transfer racial stereotypes to a movie about a galaxy that is "far, far away" is even more dumb."

"You know, what the bloody hell...some people just want an excuse to complain."

Yes but if Lucas had no "EHTNIC" looking actors in his movies then the Hue and Cry would be Lucas is Racist and refuses to Hire Minorities...

See the Race-baiters can always win on this particular issue!

143 posted on 05/20/2002 5:58:06 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: sonserae
"The script and dialogue sucked!!!"

AMEN BROTHER! Geesh did you catch that second-rate Soap Opera Dialog between Pademeh and Anakin, and what was up with her Mistress of Pain costume, oh and how did you like how the big cat-monster swiped at her just enough to rip her shirt into a Brittany half-shirt? Geesh man Lucas has really lost it!

However I did enjoy the big Jedi Battle!

144 posted on 05/20/2002 6:04:04 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: arimus
The CASE for Empire

The empire being referred to only exists within the framework of the Star Wars films, the article is not a review of Pat Buchanan's remaindered tome.

Or are you Fulani-snugglers THAT stupid to think that it is?

Ivan

145 posted on 05/20/2002 6:37:23 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: codebreaker
I loved the movie. When I first heard that people were complaining about racism in Episode I, I thought it was Asians complaining about the Trade Federation and that Chinese accent they all seemed to have.
146 posted on 05/20/2002 6:38:19 AM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: MadIvan
We, the Fulani-snugglers of FR disagree. I, as their leader represent them and can therefor vouch for them.

My, for someone who dismisses grander themes from others outright, you sure employ them often enough.

147 posted on 05/20/2002 6:55:44 AM PDT by arimus
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, you and these critics have to read more of the books. You're all jumping to many wrong conclusions without knowledge of all of the subplots that are never touched on in the movies. I haven't done a recent count, but it seems like there's around 100 books, now. They're all, painstakingly, inter-woven with some errors of course.

For instance, I believe it's detailed in 'Shadows of the Empire', Prince Xizor, of the 'Black Sun' crime syndicate, kills Luke's Aunt Berru and Uncle Owen. He's trying to take revenge for the destruction of his home planet and immediate family by the Emperor's and Darth Vader's experimentation with 'weapons of mass destruction'.

Prince Xizor is ultimately trying to win the Emperor's confidence through guile and shadowy conspiracy.

Throughout 'SOTE' Darth Vader is searching for his son Luke in hopes that he can convince him to join him in destroying the Emperor. The Emperor also orders Darth Vader to bring Luke before him alive, because he has his own plans for Luke.

Prince Xizor conspires to kill Luke and frame Vader for the murder of his own son. Xizor then anticipates that the Emperor will destroy Vader for his disobediece and install him in Vader's place where he can then strike the fatal blow of revenge against the Emperor.

Vader and the Emperor don't kill Luke, because they both wish to harness his ability to wield the 'Power of the Force' to, ultimately, be able to rule their own galaxy and potentially the rest of the Universe, if the 'Force' extends beyond their galaxy. With Luke's powers, in combination with their own, they would have no need of 'Death Star', 'Sun Crusher', 'Center Point Station' type weapons. They could destroy whole solar systems with but a thought. For example, crashing moons into planets, planets into other planets, planets into suns, suns into other suns or just by causing suns to go super nova. All with only the 'Force' as your ally, no technology.

You can't dismiss all of the other 'Star Wars' literature. Lucas is not creating his movies in a vacuum. He draws from the wealth of all of the other licensed Author's works that are out there and he, as faithfully as humanly possible, sticks to the overall chronology and storyline.

The galaxy doesn't fall, permanently, into chaos with the fall of the Emperor. The galaxy becomes a better place for all beings. Like, for instance, the Noghri (I hope I spelled that right). The New Republic rises in it's place, not without many more battles, trials and tribulations, surely, but it does restore order.

That is until a new menace to the Galaxy arises that's even more ruthless than the Emperor.

Question: Since the Arabs are complaining, how did they miss the description of the 'Tusken Raiders'? "Sand people that walk like men, but are animals. I killed them all (Anakin), men, women and children."

148 posted on 05/20/2002 7:29:45 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: MadIvan
Sorry MI, realized too late, I did, the article by Jonathan V., it was. Your pardon, I ask. Go now, I must. Read further and more carefully, I will.
149 posted on 05/20/2002 8:28:08 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: TheLurkerX; pyro7480
If anything, the movie 'The Fifth Element' and alot of the other movies mentioned ripped-off the description of their flying car chases and other action sequences from decades of other licensed 'Star Wars' literature.

Read the other books, you must. See, you will, that mistaken you are. Give false credit for the work of others to the unworthy, you do.

151 posted on 05/20/2002 8:46:05 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Tis OK. One thing I cannot find is any proof that Han Solo was in the Imperial Academy. I mean that is as good a source as any for his skills, but where is it said?

Regards, Ivan

152 posted on 05/20/2002 9:02:02 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: arimus
My, for someone who dismisses grander themes from others outright, you sure employ them often enough

Yep, typical Patsie Fruit Loop.

Ivan

153 posted on 05/20/2002 9:03:26 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Salman
Jar Jar reminded me of Shaggy from the Scooby Doo cartoons. Check out the way they walk.
154 posted on 05/20/2002 9:11:06 AM PDT by MJM59
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To: one_particular_harbour
I won't even respond to the "Geek" insult. I hope that was meant in jest.

I've read my share of 'Star Trek' novels and alot of other science fiction. I find much to like about both 'Star Trek' and 'Star Wars'. If you read one to the exclusion of the other, you're only cheating yourself.

I mourn the passing of your 'Star Trek' collection. Similar things have happened to alot of us. Women know not what they do, much of the time. Ha! We love them, anyway.

I'm just making my way through this thread, now.

You're description of how the 'New Republic' would need to govern itself was pretty close to the system they actually devise. There's remnants of the old 'Empire' to contend with, clones of the Emperor, Grand Admiral Thrawn and other 'Dark Jedi', 'Force Witches' (from the planet Dathomir), aliens from outside their known galaxy, the Emperor's hidden weapons of destruction, the Hutt criminal organization, the 'Black Sun', the Bounty Hunter Guild, etc., etc.' for the 'New Republic' and the 'New Jedi Order' to contend with, but the New Republic grows and thrives.

It works, until the Yuushon Vong (I hope I spelled that correctly) arrive in the galaxy.

155 posted on 05/20/2002 9:14:53 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Mad Dawgg
Yep...I agree with all you said except the "Amen Brother" part...I'm a woman...check my profile...Yeah...the Britney Spears dance outfit was a joke...but so was the rest of the film. I rolled my eyes and puked at the lines...especially the love scenes....and I usually love romantic scenes. There was absolutely no character development so you really didn't care what horrible things happened to the characters. That movie sparked absolutely no emotion in me except disgust and boredom.
156 posted on 05/20/2002 9:33:03 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: 4Freedom
Read the other books, you must. See, you will, that mistaken you are. Give false credit for the work of others to the unworthy, you do.

Do you enjoy speaking like Yoda? Get a life, you will, I should hope!
157 posted on 05/20/2002 9:35:48 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: 4Freedom
The Star Wars novels are cool, but they're not really sci-fi... more so than the Trek novels, which are really badly written. I liked them (until this new, weird (blanking out on name of the new storyline thing). I did enjoy the Rogue/Wraith Squadron books the best - can't get enough of those space battles, mmm-mmm. But movies that need a whole legion of novels to make them make sense do have some problems, would you agree?
158 posted on 05/20/2002 9:41:50 AM PDT by JenB
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To: MadIvan
Read the 'Han Solo Trilogy'.

Han is an orphan from the planet Corellia. He later discovers he is related to a wealthy family from Corellia and there's alot of mystery and intrigue surrounding the rumors of his father being a scoundrel or king.

Han's cousin, Sal Solo, is a total psycho that almost kills Han and Leia's 3 children. Their youngest child will be named Anakin after his Grandfather and will be even more gifted in the 'Force'(Much to everyone's surprise, yeah right, and Sal Solo's dismay.).

Han is taken in by a pirate and confidence artist and taught to be a petty theif (What famous literary work does that remind you of?). Han's surrogate mother is a Wookie that teaches him her language and sacrifices her own life to save Han's.

Han graduates the Imperial Academy and is on his way to what he believes is his heart's greatest desire, a respectable career in the Imperial Navy, until he sees a Wookie about to be killed by an Imperial Officer.

Han throws away his career in the Imperial Navy to rescue the Wookie, named Chewbacca (the origin of Chewie's life-debt to Han that's continued by Chewie's family even after Chewie's death), and they begin their adventures, together, as scoundrels, smugglers and outlaws.

There's more to 'Star Wars' than most so-called 'fans' will ever know.

159 posted on 05/20/2002 9:50:56 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: codebreaker
Lord, do these liberal lunatics see everything through stupid glasses? I saw the movie. My opinion: "SO WHAT?" If they had been white men then Lucas would have been considered racist for not being inclusive. These whining malcontents have no capacity for original thought OR for accepting entertainment at face value, therefore I have no inclination to pay any attention to their whining.
160 posted on 05/20/2002 9:56:59 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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