An Insult to Africans (Affirmative Action assumes black people are mentally inferior and incapable)

Mail & Guardian (Johannesburg) ^ | May 17, 2002 | Sipho Seepe

[Bahbah]

"How long are we going to maintain policies that assume that black people are mentally inferior and incapable of competing on their own merit?" Just as long as those in the "grievance elite" continue to profit from it.

[dead]

It's big business in the USA. Shakedown Jackson's got paternity bills to pay.

[Random Access]

How long are we going to maintain policies that assume that black people are mentally inferior and incapable of competing on their own merit?

Most people cleary see that traditional affirmative action is doomed. Court cases are slowly finding it illegal. Liberals and victim grievence groups have seen this and are now preaching "diversisty". The mindless mantra of "level playing field" has given way to the equally mindless mantra of "our strength is in our diversity".

[mhking]

Black conservative ping

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[CatoRenasci]

It's really a pity, because 'affirmative action' could have been structured to be a merit-oriented way to help the disadvantaged.

I was involved in the early debates over affirmative action and its shape at the University of California.

I was part of a faction that proposed an affirmative action program that would concentrate on identification of talented students through testing and interviews, and extensive remediation efforts at the junior college level to bring otherwise unprepared disadvantaged students up to the standards required for regular admission to the University. Those admitted on this approach would have been expected to take a traditional academic major, not something in ethnic studies or the like.

Our idea was that once the student was at the University, he or she would be treated exactly as any other student without preference, although with perhaps access to supportive services to help with adjustment to university life.

This approach would have ensured that there would be no question as to the qualification of the student to be at Cal or any question that the student had done the same work for a degree. Unfortunately, we lost.

[dead]

I'm sorry you lost.

It became a skin-color-based entitlement, that ignored scholastic merit.

The same sort of racial spoils system that was dismantled in South Africa is still being pushed in this country by our faux-compassionate liberals.

[joesnuffy]

Funny how even some first gen Asians are opposed to Afromative Action
Which helps to keep their numbers "out" of the University

[hgro]

Why is it that in black Africa where everyone is black and there is no need for affirmative action they (the black populaton) occupy temselves in maiming and killing each other. There is not one country in Sub-Sahara Africa that has been successful since all of the Europeans have been killed or kicked out.

Black people should be spending their time in trying to solve why they reside on the bottom of all of the world's populations both intellectualy and economically.

[G.Mason]

There you go again...trying to be logical.

[rdb3]

NOW HEAR THIS!

Affirmative Action is a welfare program for middle- to upper middle-class American blacks. Aside from it also being truly an insult to our intelligence, everything else said about it is pure conjecture. Poor blacks are used as the poster children for it, but it doesn't benefit them in the least.

End it, NOW.

[farmall]

3,300 students attend the high school i teach at. 70% are black, 20% are hispanic, 7% are white, the rest are asian, and etc..

most of the black and hispanic students and some of the white students are behind acedmically.

the top ten students were acknowledged last night. 6 asians, 1 black, 1 white, 2 exchange students from macedonia.

many scholarships were handed out that only blacks can receive.

most of my students believe that they are owed something by whites and that it is just fine they get more consideration just for their skin color.

that is how it is around here. i don't see this affirmative action bs going away, i see it growing here.

[dagny taggert]

Please. I know many people who immigrated from Africa, or are just here as students, and they are not killers. Their governments may be corrupt, but that does not mean the populous is. Of course, the ones I know have chosen to move away from the violence, so I don't know any who choose to stay in that way of life. But it is NOT a side effect of the amount of melanin in their skin.

[mhking]

Aside from it also being truly an insult to our intelligence, everything else said about it is pure conjecture.

Works for me...

[lepton]

When some of these arguments get going, usually they stop cold when I say "I refuse to accept that blacks are innately inferior". If one argues in favor of affirmative action, and the groundwork is already laid in the argument, there's not much of any place one arguing in favor of it can go (except sometimes it just ticks them off really badly).

[lepton]

That's one of two parts of affirmative action I can deal with. The other was the original "foot in the door" part, the need for which is long gone. Once the foot is in the door, the reverse monopoly is broken, and people who act on their racism pay a price.

[dead]

I use the same tactic with the liberals I always find myself surrounded by.

I know this one dingbat girl who I can turn into a furious, spittle-spewing madwomen in less than five minutes of debate.

I spin every one of her canned liberal talking points into a scathing indictment of her personal moral shortcomings.

It's great fun!

[CatoRenasci]

Indeed, the sort of affirmative action we were talking about was throughly consistent with Jefferson's 'aristocracy of talent' -- we were simply trying to identify some who had the talent, but might not have the opportunity to display it, give them that opportunity, and then let them rise to their natural level.

[yankeedame]

....Prior to the enactment of civil rights, no amount of merit enabled blacks to advance....

Excuse me?? Is this to say that prior to the mid-1960s there were no black business owners, entertainers,teachers, doctors,lawyers,accountants, military NCO and officers, auto machanics, hair dressers, librarians, school principals, botanists, plumbers, chemists, etc. etc. etc....?

Well, I guess it goes to prove you do learn something new everyday. (sarcasm)

[mafree]

Thanks for the ping.

If AA programs were/are based on real discrimination toward qualified people I have less of a problem with them than what some of them have become. Oh well, why should I worry much- Blacks aren't the main beneficiaries of AA anyway.