My last post: in Silence

May 17 2002 | Friso Stammen

[skeeter]

I hope you'll stick around. You've got more friends here than most, & all of us get cr*pped on from time to time...

[antidisestablishment]

You've seen the worst, but don't forget the best. You inspired Americans to see that "shining city on the hill" and I am sorry your time was so short. From your home page:

We are fighting because others have fought for us, for our rights, for our freedom. We must fight this evil so it can no longer harm anyone again. Also we must keep on fighing to make others free (remember the Battle Hymne of the Republic: "as he died to make men holy, let us die to make man free").

Some people believe that we are giving in. Never I say! When George Washington faced a much larger British amry, did they choose not to fight for their (and our) freedom? Did the men who defended the Alamo give in? No, even when they knew they would all be killed and the Mexicans offered them safe passage, they choose to fight. They died so that others could be free, they gave their lives so others wouldn't die. When the Japanse army made their strike at Pearl Harbor, did we give in? Or when the US Amny landed at the beaches in Normandy and things went really bad? No! They fought on to victory!

[Stentor]

Ba bye.

[harpseal]

First, I did not see the article you are reffering to. I can not comment on it, but will take your description of it at face value The thing everyone must remember is the Free Republic is an open forum and absolutely anything that is published just about anywhere is fair game for posting and commenting. Often, threads are based on what are basically published libels. By the open exchange of ideas and knowledge those who do not have an intimate knowledge of the subject matter are able to work towards the truth and are able to dismiss the propaganda.

It can be very irritating when one sees blantant lies on the screen. It can be even more irritating when one sees Free Republic posters promulgating the lying propaganda. To me the best response to these libels is to stay in the fray and let people know the truth. The uncollected reward you mentioned is very significant. It lets people know that a calumny has been spread against Pim Fortuyn.(sp?) This forum is in the USA. Many of us do nit follow politics in every nation on the surface of the planet and even those of us who do follow many foreign political situations need to focus our attentions on a few nations.

Obviously you are offened and I will presume quite rightly so but remember that this is a free for all exchange of ideas where hopefully the truth will become evident to those who read threads here.

All of us have endured insults from ignorant posters. All of us who have been at Free Republic for several years have had disagreements with other posters. Much of what you have posted has provided many of us with insights into what is happening in Europe that we might not otherwise have gotten. This insight has proven quite useful in determining the nature of world events.

I do not know your final decision about leaving. I guess that if you do leave then I shall have to look to others for insights into the internal structure of politics inside the Nethelands.

My usual reaction to posters who publish statements that they are leaving Free Republic is to say something equivalent to "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." I think my comments here are partly a result of your giving an inside view into Dutch politics and my view that perhaps you have not been at Free Republic long enough to realize that just about anyone or an idea you view as important will be attacked by someone.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[piasa]

I didn't see the article in question, nor what people said... but I can't believe you of all people would let some single-issued automatons manipulate you off the forum. Stick around and fight, if you can't stay the course someone on an 'anonymous' forum, how can you ever expect to develop the steel you need to take ideological ground in person? If the one thread was absorbing all of your time battling with the people who are fixated on a certain thing and who won't be convinced one way or another, move on to other threads on other subjects for a while. Sometimes you will run into people who aren't interested in reasoned debate but who will simply try to eat up as much of your time as possible by getting into a battle of 'who shall have the last word' with you. Don't fall for it. Those threads will be around for a while and you can always go back to them weeks from now. By that time, there's a good chance the person who you were arguing with will have self-destructed.

If you think these people are annoying, try dealing with the numbskulls the owner of Freerepublic has to deal with...

[fnord]

you don't need to go. your friends here far outnumber the idiots, and always will. if you do go, come back and visit some time, ya hear.

[piasa]

... some of those folks are as hateful and obsessed as Bill and Hillary Clinton.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

I don't know what this is all about - other than to know that you posted about the assassinatino of Fortyn and all the issues associated with that socialist/leftist/environazi attack on a man who sponsored issues that many here on FR - including moi - support.

You brought to us the information that the Euro-socialist-greenies-animal rights wackos are killers.

People who applaud the killing of Fortyn want you to shut up. If you leave, they win. Please reconsider.

[AppyPappy]

I give the opus a 7 because you can't dance to it.

"When danger reared it ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled, Brave, Brave Sir Robin"

[fortress]

Knighthawk, I hope you will stay around, but it is our loss if you are not.
You are our reporter from the Netherlands and you have educated us more about that nation than Time or Elsevier.
Remember: Be strong and couragious......
Pim died for his ideas and you can help keep his vision alive, by standing up to unfair critisism.

[Nebullis]

Als je echt moet gaan kan je gaan met de woorden van Pim zelf:

De rechtsfilosoof en pedofiel Brongersma, jarenlang senator voor de PvdA, heeft zijn leven lang gestreden voor begrip voor de pedofiele medemens. Hij begon daar onverschrokken aan na het uitzitten van een gevangenisstraf voor ongewenste intimiteiten met een minderjarige. De desbetreffende minderjarige had het helemaal niet ongewenst gevonden, maar justitie oordeelde in de jaren vijftig anders.

In de jaren zestig en zeventig kreeg Brongersma langzaam maar zeker voet aan de grond. Na de uitvinding van de pil was er de bevrijding van de seks. Homoseks werd geaccepteerd, en waarom zou dan - onder de strikte voorwaarde dat het kind het wil en dat het niet wordt gedwongen - pedoseks niet zijn toegestaan? Dit verlichte standpunt is inmiddels verlaten en onder invloed van de gogen is het kind neergezet als geheel en al vrij van seksuele lusten, in elk geval tegenover volwassenen.

We zijn ver verwijderd van het begrip dat Brongersma trachtte te kweken, overigens tot schade van onszelf, want alles wat bespreekbaar is, is in beginsel ook beheersbaar, moet u maar denken!

Mischien denk je dat dit niet te bespreken is. Maar hier op FR mag zoiets juist wel onder discussie komen. En zonder kogels. Als je daar niet tegen kan, hoeven we je hier niet.

[Rodney King]

Good post. Please hand around. We need Freepers on the ground in Europe.

As for your Opus, I rate it a 1. You did not attack Jim Robinson, and you do not appear to be drunk. Plus, you only referred to one other post. A good opus would refer to threads that angered you from three years ago, and complain that not enough freepers defended you on it.

Please stay, at least for enough time so that you can prepare a decent Opus.

Someone around here has links to all the classic Opii, and will hopefully post them for your guidance.

[dougherty]

I saw the thread you were referring to, and for some reason was unable to post a reply to it. It was a load of BS, and proof that some people believe anything. The man is dead and the leftists are still waging a smear campaign against him. It's disgusting.

[Dakmar]

I hope you will reconsider, don't let the fools run you off.

[End Times Sentinel]

Knighthawk, I too hope you’ll stick around. Don’t let some single issued idiot deprive the rest of FR of one of our best posters. Your insights have been extremely valuable to the rest of us.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

[winodog]

That makes no sense. You do Fr a service by revealing the truth. Why would you leave when you can bring the truth to the table.

For all you know your words may have changed the minds or mind of someone in which case you are invaluable to the cause of truth. Leaving because a few people dont see it makes no sense.

[Sabertooth]

Relax, no matter how dark it gets, comic book characters always come back for an encore.

Just ask that runt, Wolverine.

[Arioch7]

First off, the article DID demonize Pim. So what, there were plenty of people on that thread who said the article was BS.

Secondly... yes, some people did say some bad things about Homosexuals. So what, as a Conservative in MAss, I am hated far more and called a lot worse then anything that some said about Homosexuals on the thread.

Thirdly, all I did was post some insane essay about the difference between European and American Politics.

As for Knighthawk, good bye and thinks for the poem. Perhaps I have thick skin but I cant see what was THAT bad about the thread(Which I contributed very little to becuase I was pinged).

[justshutupandtakeit]

I don't get it. You are leaving because someone posted a scurrilous article? That is a high compliment to your effectiveness.

Leaving allows your enemy to claim victory. Ask yourself who would want you to stop spreading vital information? Do you want Islame to win?

[JMS]

Please reconsider. Don't let one lie put you off. When you see something like the thread you're referring to it's time to fight back. You fought back when Pim was murdered and helped get Kok kicked out of office and hopefully out of politics for good. Don't stop now.