Kindergartener's stripper-mom in church-school flap

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, May 16, 2002

[Prodigal Daughter]

What is the Democratic Underground?

It's a whiney, Democratic website that hates Free Republic. I've never personally been there, but there are threads about it at FR.

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I didn't know him well. I had a feeling he wasn't going to stay with that denomination long when he became a laughing stock among his congregation for building a MAGNIFICENT octagonal house. IMO, he ws beginning to feel a little...err...stifled by the time of the beer incident.

I don't ned to learn about the Mennonite faith. Hubby has several Menonite preachers and a deacon in his very near family. What I've learned from Hubby's relatives hasn't warmed me toward their style of worship.

You have the correct keyword in "tradition". Interpretations become traditions. Traditions become sub cultures. Some of us are uncomfortable within those subcultures.

Amish...don't even go there.

[Prodigal Daughter]

I just heard on the radio that the stripper mom used to teach Sunday school at the church, so I think she should be familiar with the verse, "Go and sin no more."

[flyervet]

Scathing. But it needed to be said. Bump.

[Chemist_Geek]

Considering Mankind's fallen nature, it would probably be best if male/female nakedness were confined to the marriage relationship.

Oh, come on...

Michelangelo's David is one example. Here are a bunch of Grecian nude sculptures. Granted, they aren't exactly nude people like in the club, but they're depictions of nakedness.

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"There was a recent article here in Houston about a lesbian couple who were frustrated by their failure in trying to get a church to accept homosexuality"

Come on. What does that have to do with a five year-old kid not being allowed to finish out the last three weeks of school? The school was within their rights, but they helped to harm a little girl emotionally, and that is WRONG.

[ColdSteelTalon]

I just heard on the radio that the stripper mom used to teach Sunday school at the church

This woman obviously has not figured out whether she will follow the Lord or not. What a Loon....

[flyervet]

If you've personally never been there, how can you say for certain what the content is and what the opinions of those people would be?

[1L]

How'd they know what momma was doing for a living? One of those fine, upstanding men of the congregation went there and shot his mouth off? Or maybe she confided in someone, who blabbed it all over as a disgusting gossip?

Or maybe the little girl told a teacher. Don't make an idiot out of yourself. If you don't know the facts, don't make assumptions to try and get your point across. The school had the absolute right to do what they did. If you don't like it, tough. Further, a church isn't responsible for the actions of its members, so the church acting on something a member might have told them isn't setting a bad example.

[Woahhs]

Many of the posters on this thread remind me of what I call "the greatest jackass of the bible."

In the story of "David and Goliath," David shows up at the battlefield to bring some provisions to his older brothers. One of his brothers ignores his stated reason for coming to the battlefield, and instead, accuses him of "rubber-necking." When the brother does so, it is with a claim to "know" David's heart.

Now I always found it hilarious that God refers only to David as "a man after God's own heart."

If some of you projected any more into this story, instead of reading what it says, I'd swear there were some screws loose.

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"...a parent went to the strip club's Web site, downloaded pictures of Silvas and brought them to school staff."

As a middle aged grandma, I can't believe I did this, but I went to their web site. I didn't find a pic of Christina Silvas, but DID find this...

"All of the photos on this site have been copyrighted from day 1. For all of you who have taken from this site, we hope you have a good lawyer."

Err...this does not bode well for the unnamed concerned "parent" who downloaded images and took them to the staff for THEIR...err...perusal.

I STILL think the school should have simply barred the daughter from entry next yesr, rather than kicking the little tyke out of school. Then again, not too many people seem too worried about the EFFECTS of this incident on THE AFFECTED five year-old. Just the moral implications of the mother's sin. It's really sad when people forget about the kids.

[Chemist_Geek]

Mac and cheese (made with water and no butter) is much better than having a Mother willing to do what she has to so she can provide...

If the stories I've read about "exotic" dancers' take-home pay is true, then do you recommend every mother take up that line of work? They'd then be able to provide better for their children with the dancer's high pay, unless they were already neurosurgeons or something equally well-paid.

[Chemist_Geek]

No, I think the children appreciate having clothes on their backs, food on their plates, a livable home in a nice neighborhood and a good education. In fact, I think all children appreciate these things and are helped by them.

Well, then, shouldn't every mother be a stripper, because if the tales of strippers' take-home pay is true, then they would be better able to provide clothing, food, shelter, private schools, etc.?

[Chemist_Geek]

Then end justifies the means. I think I'll start selling crack, my kids have their eye on a pony.

Bwhahahahaha!!!

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"It's a whiney, Democratic website that hates Free Republic. I've never personally been there, but there are threads about it at FR."

I've been a member there, several times. I keep getting banned for writing far more politely than I do here.

They're OBSESSED with FR. They have "What do you think FR's chances of survival are", and "We can't go around accusing all newbies of being FReepers!" threads. Weird. I avoid the DU now, because one really doesn't need that many showers a day.

[Chemist_Geek]

Aaaaaahhhhhugh! I'm wincing... I will now walk to the car with my knees firmly held together...

[PuNcH]

Well, then, shouldn't every mother be a stripper, because if the tales of strippers' take-home pay is true, then they would be better able to provide clothing, food, shelter, private schools, etc.?

If every mother became a stripper and sent their kids to a private school and therefore destroyed the public school system, our country would be improved greatly and the future would be very hopeful and positive.

[Chemist_Geek]

I STILL think the school should have simply barred the daughter from entry next yesr, rather than kicking the little tyke out of school. Then again, not too many people seem too worried about the EFFECTS of this incident on THE AFFECTED five year-old. Just the moral implications of the mother's sin. It's really sad when people forget about the kids.

Yeah, it would probably have been better for them to work it out over the summer with the mother in question. Three months would be sufficient time, with the congregation's help, to find a replacement job for her. Of course it would necessarily be less well paid, but there is a sufficient reason for that woman to take the pay cut that would come with work that keeps her little girl in that school.

[flyervet]

Well, then, shouldn't every mother be a stripper, because if the tales of strippers' take-home pay is true, then they would be better able to provide clothing, food, shelter, private schools, etc.?

No, of course not, for the same reason that not everyone should be a doctor, lawyer, actor, or superspy. I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult, but just because a certain aspect of a career sounds appealing doesn't mean that you would like all of that career, or even that you're suited for that career. For instance, lots of people think it would be great to be a fireman, but how many people have the physical ability to run up dozens of flights of stairs carrying heavy equipment in the middle of a burning building? How many people can develop the nerves of steel necessary to defy death on a daily basis?

I'm reminded of a techie friend of mine who thought he would become a headhunter during the dot.com salad days not so long ago. Headhunters at that time could claim 30% commissions on the salaries of the people they placed (paid by the companies), and it seemed like easy work, find a person with decent skills, make a few calls to IT directors, and voila, easy money. Except that it was harder than he thought to find a good person who was looking for a job, and it wasn't that easy to find a company who would pay a recruiting fee. Once he did, there was no guarantee that the person would take the job, assuming they got the job to begin with. Sometimes they said they would take the job and then didn't start or else started and decided to go to work somewhere else two days later, meaning he didn't get any money at all and had no recourse. He once said that he felt like everyone was lying to him all the time, candidates and clients alike. This job seemed easy and lucrative from the outside, and perhaps there's a certain kind of person for whom that's true (probably somebody with a "salesy" sort of personality). He lasted six months, during which he made a grand total of $10,000.

The moral of the story is that just because you want to do something doesn't mean you actually can do something.

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"Yeah, it would probably have been better for them to work it out over the summer with the mother in question. Three months would be sufficient time, with the congregation's help, to find a replacement job for her. Of course it would necessarily be less well paid, but there is a sufficient reason for that woman to take the pay cut that would come with work that keeps her little girl in that school."

Exactly.
Absolutely.
Well said.
BUMP.