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Gays defending faith and selves [Openly gay Diocese of Cleveland employee set to join Marianists]
Akron Beacon Journal ^ | May 13, 2002 | Jim Carney

Posted on 05/14/2002 9:34:39 PM PDT by Diago







Posted on Mon, May. 13, 2002

Homosexuals fear `witch hunt' in backlash of abuse scandal rocking Catholic Church
Gays defending faith and selves
Some say they've been `sacrificed' over sexual orientation

Beacon Journal staff writer

A cloak of fear hangs over a part of the body of the Roman Catholic Church.

``They are on a witch hunt,'' said a gay priest who says Mass for a group of gay Catholics called Dignity meeting at a Congregational Church in downtown Columbus two Sunday evenings a month.

He has been a priest for 20 years. But he refuses to give his name over the phone. He refuses to even say in which diocese he serves, though diocesan officials know that he is gay and that he ministers to Dignity.

His fear is not without foundation.

The child sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church has put the issue of homosexuality in the spotlight. The most notorious of the accused abusers -- John Geoghan and Paul R. Shanley of the Boston Archdiocese -- have been gay priests charged with molesting or raping young boys.

That has drawn harsh statements from some Catholic Church leaders.

In March, Joaquin Navarro-Valls, spokesman for Pope John Paul II, questioned the ordination of gays. ``People with these inclinations just cannot be ordained,'' he told the New York Times.

Last month, Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, was widely quoted as saying that the Catholic priesthood should not be dominated by homosexual men.

Such words deeply concern gay Catholics.

``Gay priests have been carrying out the church's work for decades,'' said Marianne Duddy, executive director of Dignity USA, a national organization representing gay, lesbian and transgender Catholics. ``They've preached the Gospel, visited the sick, comforted the dying and the grieving, celebrated marriages, baptized children -- all the things faithful Catholics hope for from their pastors.

``Now, when the church faces a crisis, its leaders are willing to sacrifice these good men. How is that a Christian approach?''

Gay and Catholic

Meg Bechter, a 28-year-old Cuyahoga Falls resident, senior psychology major at the University of Akron and employee of Children's Hospital Medical Center of Akron, is a lifelong, devout Catholic, a faithful member of Immaculate Heart of Mary Church in Cuyahoga Falls. She also is a lesbian.

``The idea of a backlash against gays and lesbians because of recent events does scare me,'' she said. ``But then I think, `How much worse can it get?' ''

Though Catholic doctrine does not say that it is wrong to be a homosexual, it does say that it is a sin to engage in a homosexual relationship.

Bechter said she came to terms with her sexuality when she was being treated for depression at an area hospital several years ago.

``Oh, my God,'' she thought. ``God made me gay. I am going to embrace it.''

Bechter said she considers herself fortunate because she has a supportive family. She is also part of a diocese-sponsored support group for gays and lesbians.

She believes the clergy scandal has opened up a frank discussion about the topic of homosexuality within the church and that could lead to changes in church doctrine.

``We can't erase the shame until people start talking,'' she said. ``I hope the church will welcome and acknowledge its gay clergy, which will lead to gay clergy being able to openly minster to gay Catholics.''

Gay people, she said, ``are ordinary men and women carrying on ordinary lives.''

Unfairly labeled

One reason the issue of homosexuality in the church is so sensitive is the number of priests who are gay.

Estimates on that number range from percentages in the single digits to as high as 60 percent. Within the general population, such estimates range no higher than 10 percent.

A.W. Richard Sipe, a former priest from La Jolla, Calif., a retired therapist and the author of Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis, has studied sexuality and the priesthood for 42 years. His research indicates that 30 percent of priests are likely to be homosexual.

``The gay Catholic community is rightfully indignant at some of the church's statements,'' Sipe said, ``and, in fact, a good number of good Catholic priests who are homosexual in orientation have told me how wounded they feel, that they have given their whole life to the church and have been celibate and the church labels them as intrinsically defective.''

The Rev. Donald Cozzens, a Cleveland native and the former president rector of St. Mary Seminary in Wickliffe, said the current climate makes for a difficult time for celibate gay priests.

``For the celibate gay priest today, who is paddling as hard as he can as all priests are at this painful time, the church teaches the orientation is objectively disordered and not the person,'' said Cozzens, the author of The Changing Face of the Priesthood: A Reflection on the Priest's Crisis of Soul. ``That is a hard thing for any gay person to deal with and it can be hard for a gay priest to deal with.''

Cozzens, who sets the number of gay priests at ``considerably more than 8 to 10 percent,'' thinks that good ultimately will come out of the current scandal.

``The priesthood will be healthier and purified,'' he said, ``and the church will be stronger.''

Diocesan outreach

For several years, the Cleveland Diocese has been reaching out to gays and lesbians by holding support group meetings for them, their friends and families.

Sister Rita Mary Harwood, diocese secretary for Parish Life and Development, whose office coordinates gay outreach, said the church needs to offer understanding and pastoral care to its homosexual brothers and sisters.

``The church calls all of us to live a chaste life and outside of marriage to live a celibate life,'' she said. ``And just as the church calls a heterosexual person to refrain from sexual relations outside of marriage, it also calls a homosexual person to refrain from sexual relations.

``The church calls us as a faith community to respect, compassion and sensitivity to persons with a homosexual orientation and says any discrimination in that regard is wrong.''

Harwood said there is much confusion among people in the church and elsewhere over the issue of child sexual abuse.

``It seems that people are equating that with a homosexual orientation, which is not correct,'' she said. ``The information that is available indicates it is not more likely for a homosexual person to have difficulty with sexual abuse any more than it would be for a heterosexual person.''

That confusion, she said, ``causes great concern for persons who have a homosexual orientation.''

The Rev. Norman Douglas, executive director of Heart to Heart Communications, started ministering to gays and lesbians and their families when he was pastor at St. Martha Church in Akron seven years ago.

As part of the diocesan outreach to gays, Douglas now heads support groups for families of gay Catholics.

Their main concern is that people don't confuse pedophilia or abuse of minors with homosexuality, he said.

Someone who is gay or lesbian ``is no more likely to be a pedophile than someone who is straight,'' Douglas said.

Program upsets some

But the church's outreach to gays has upset some people.

Robert Tayek, spokesman for the Cleveland Diocese, said diocesan officials received about two dozen e-mails earlier this month questioning the church's gay and lesbian outreach.

Tayek said it appeared to him that the campaign may have been orchestrated because all the e-mails had the same type of message.

``Why would the diocese be promoting gay and lesbian events when the catecism and the pope have clearly stated this is behavior not to be tolerated?'' one e-mail said. ``Why would you even post the meetings on your website.''

Tayek said the church's position on homosexuality was spelled out clearly in a 1997 statement from the National Conference of Catholic Bishops called ``Always Our Children -- A Pastoral Message to Parents of Homosexual Children.''

Though at times you may feel discouraged, hurt or angry, the statement to the parents said, ``do not walk away from your families, from the Christian community, from all those who love you. In you, God's love is revealed. You are always our children.''

Cleveland resident Brian Halderman is a faithful Catholic who plans to join the Marianist religious order -- the Society of Mary -- this summer as an openly gay man.

``Silence is violence on this issue,'' said the 25-year-old Halderman, a member of Ascension Catholic Church in Cleveland. ``Part of the body of Christ is gay, whether you like it or not.''

Halderman, who works for the Cleveland Diocese as the technology utilization manager in its secretariat for education, said he is bothered by conservative members of the church who believe gay Catholics are promoting a homosexual agenda.[Note to Freepers: Check out this guys website including the Out in Cleveland Link at: http://brianhalderman.net/personal.htm - Link to Halderman‘s website]

``I have no other agenda than that of the gospel and my work is to build the kingdom,'' said Halderman, who is part of a Cleveland Diocese-sponsored support group for gays and lesbians.

``If we all stayed focused on loving one another and building the kingdom here on Earth, we would live in a better church and a better world.''


Jim Carney can be reached at 330-996-3576 or jcarney@thebeaconjournal.com



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To: eastsider
Has the shooting of an accused homosexual priest grabbed enough attention from the bishops and cardinals?
41 posted on 05/16/2002 11:58:22 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: eastsider
I've been through the Diocese of Galveston-Houston website and it looks clean.
42 posted on 05/16/2002 12:00:21 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: eastsider
(trying that again):

Has the shooting of an accused homosexual priest grabbed enough attention from the bishops and cardinals?

43 posted on 05/16/2002 12:01:10 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Cap'n Crunch; siobhan; eastsider
Bishop Pilla needs to have zero tolerance for dissent! For instance, one of the most heretical groups in existance is FutureChurch, a group that is calling for women priestesses, among other things. And yet, the mailing address for FutureChurch is St. Mark's Parish in Cleveland:

From the Final Communque of the US Cardinals:

5) Given the doctrinal issues underlying the deplorable behavior in question, certain lines of response have been proposed:a) the Pastors of the Church need clearly to promote the correct moral teaching of the Church and publicly to reprimand individuals who spread dissent and groups which advance ambiguous approaches to pastoral care;

FutureChurch is one of these dissenting groups:

http://www.futurechurch.org/index.htm

FutureChurch
15800 Montrose Avenue
Cleveland, Ohio 44111 USA
Phone: 216.228.0869 | Fax: 216.228.4872
E-mail: info@futurechurch.org

http://www.cleveland.catholicnet.com/parish/stmark/

St. Mark Church
15800 Montrose Ave.
Cleveland, OH 44111
Rectory (216) 226-7577
E-mail: doughk@aol.com
Rev. Doug Koesel, Pastor

This is another scandal. I think one sign of good faith would be getting the homosexual, rainbow triangle off of the Diocese's website and then kicking FutureChurch off of Diocesan property. We will see what happens.

44 posted on 05/16/2002 12:09:23 PM PDT by Diago
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Part of the unfortunate he said/he said aspect of these horrible, appalling, and grotesque stories.

It should be a standing policy in the Church that private meetings behind closed doors should only be behind glass doors. Any meeting behind solid, closed doors would be automatically actionable.

One reason why confessionals were structured as they were was to limit the temptation for priests to get "too close" to women. Or too close to men, as the case may be.

45 posted on 05/16/2002 12:16:31 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Diago; ALL
Here's a list of the states (and cities) with local Courage chapters:
Alaska (Anchorage)
Arizona (Phoenix; Tucson)
California (Orange County (Santa Ana); San Diego; San Francisco; Willets and Napa (Diocese of Santa Rosa)
Colorado (Denver)
Connecticut (New Haven)
Delaware (Wilmington)
District of Columbia
Florida (Jacksonville; Miami; Ocala (Diocese of Orlando); Plantation (Ft. Lauderdale); St. Petersburg)
Georgia (Dalton and Dunwoody (Diocese of Atlanta)
Illinois (Champaign (Diocese of Champaign); Chicago
Indiana (Tell City; South Bend)
Iowa (Iowa City)
Kentucky (Louisville)
Louisiana (Layfayette; New Orleans)
Maine (Springvale; Helene (Diocese of Portland))
Massachusetts (Cambridge/Boston; Chicopee (Diocese of Springfield); Fall River; New Bedford; Worcester)
Michigan (Grosse Point Farms and Wayne (Diocese of Detroit); Grand Rapids; Lansing
Minnesota (St. Paul; Minneapolis)
Missouri (St. Louis)
Nebraska (Lincoln; Omaha)
New Jersey (Montclair; Trenton; Bridgewater; Lambertville ((Diocese of Metuchen); Wenonah (Diocese of Camden)
New Mexico (Santa Fe; Gallup)
New York (Buffalo; Long Beach and Valley Stream (Diocese of Rockville Center); New York City; Middletown; Rochester; Syracuse; White Plains; Utica)
North Carolina (Carthage)
Ohio (Cincinnati; Steubenville; Toledo)
Oregon (Portland)
Pennsylvania (Erie; Harrisburg; Bethlehem/Allentown; Philadelphia; Pittsburgh)
Rhode Island (Providence)
South Carolina (Charleston)
Tennessee (Memphis)
Texas (Austin; Beaumont; College Station; Dallas/Fort Worth; Houston; Midland/Odessa; San Antonio)
Virginia (Virginia Beach)
Washington (Seattle)
West Virginia (Weirton)
Wisconsin (La Crosse; Milwaukee)

46 posted on 05/16/2002 12:17:39 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Aquinasfan
Ironically...Shanley apparently used Confessionals for some of his assaults. That's how monstrous this beast is.
47 posted on 05/16/2002 12:21:17 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Bohemund
Thanks, Bohemund.
48 posted on 05/16/2002 12:25:47 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Diago
Prayer bump for Cleveland!
49 posted on 05/16/2002 12:27:58 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Diago
Despite Dignity's being banned from celebrating the Eucharist in Roman Catholic churches, my initial checking on the Dignity website lists the following Catholic churches which hold Dignity Masses in violation of the ban:
Georgia: Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, Atlanta
Indiana: St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic Church, Indianapolis
Michigan: St. Pius X Catholic Church, Milwaukee
New Mexico: Holy Family Catholic Church, Albuquerque

50 posted on 05/16/2002 1:15:41 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Diago
BTW, the Dignity website lists 60 chapters in the following states:
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Illinois
Indiana
Kentucky
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Missouri
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin
Why are the bishops in these 31 states (plus D.C.) allowing their priests to celebrate the Eucharist for the members of Dignity, who are living openly and notoriously in sin? Check out Dignity's "Vision Statement":
Dignity/USA envisions and works for a time when Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Catholics are affirmed and experience dignity through the integration of their spirituality with their sexuality, and as beloved persons of God participate fully in all aspects of life within the Church and Society.
Oh, yeah -- check out the rainbow stole! LOL : )



51 posted on 05/16/2002 2:17:21 PM PDT by eastsider
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Re #50, above. Milwaukee is in Wisconsin, not Michigan. Sorry. : )
52 posted on 05/16/2002 2:59:08 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: aculeus
Do you know who it is?
53 posted on 05/16/2002 3:11:13 PM PDT by fatima
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To: fatima
Do you know who it is?

No. (I'm so not-Catholic that I can't even name more than two cardinals.)

54 posted on 05/16/2002 3:23:57 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: eastsider
The following is quoted from the November 20, 1998 issue of The Gay People's Chronicle, a weekly newspaper in Cleveland. [I saw this on the Roman Catholic Faithful site a while back - I believe Bishop Pilla finally has banned Dignity Masses from Church property.]

Bishop to preside at Dignity prayer service by Doreen Cudnik

Cleveland - The Most Rev. Anthony J. Pilla, bishop of Cleveland, [Pilla was past president of the National Conference of Bishops] will preside at Dignity Cleveland's 25th anniversary prayer service, to be held in the Cathedral of St. John the Evangelist downtown.

Dignity invites all lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Catholics, their families and friends to join them...

The service is set for Friday, December 4, at 7 pm at the Cathedral, located on the corner of E. 9th and Superior Ave.

The prayer service will be followed by a reception with Bishop Pilla at 8 p.m. in the Rappe Room of the Catholic Center located on the Cathedral campus.

There will be a meeting on November 22, following Dignity Cleveland's monthly celebration of the Eucharist at the 10:30 a.m. Mass at Our Lady of Peace church at E. 125th Street & Shaker Boulevard, to discuss ways to make the December 4 prayer service a successful and spiritually moving event.


55 posted on 05/16/2002 3:29:05 PM PDT by Diago
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To: aculeus
Can you keep me updated,if you see any more on this,Thanks,Betty
56 posted on 05/16/2002 3:38:06 PM PDT by fatima
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To: fatima
Three suspects come to mind immediately, maybe four.
57 posted on 05/16/2002 4:02:27 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Diago
From everything I've seen so far, Dignity/USA is highly organized and championed by the Jesuits (which is one of the reasons I find the Retreat at the Jesuit Retreat House in Parma that is still listed under "Upcoming Events" so suspect). Dignity/USA also has the backing of the secular gay activists, and continues to try slipping into Catholic churches through the back door with the unwitting (or perhaps not-so-unwitting) cooperation of people like Halderman.

I notice that Courage has three local chapters in Ohio: Cincinnati, Steubenville and Toledo. Are any of these cities in the diocese of Cleveland? If so, could the omission of Courage from the Diocese of Cleveland's "Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry" page -- like the inclusion of the secular rainbow banner and triangle -- be more of Halderman's work?

58 posted on 05/16/2002 4:09:21 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Diago
Actually, I've already answered my own question here: Each of Cincinnati, Steubenville and Toledo is the seat of its own diocese.
59 posted on 05/16/2002 4:19:22 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Siobhan
Unless Catholics actually organize and take over their Local Dioceses and get rid of the charlatans in the Hierarchy, the church will slide over the edge into the abyss.

The Present problems in the Church are from Homosexual criminal priests who in their demented lifestyle abused and destroyed the lives of thousands of children.

All of the abuse was allowed by the inaction of the Hierarchy in charge, or because they were compromized and were subjected to blackmail and were by their own fault forced to go along.

If they Believe that Faithful Catholics can accept 60% of the Priests and Bishops being Homosexuals then there will have to be a split in the church.

One branch could be "The Roman Catholic Faithful".

The other Could be "The Roman Catholic? Homosexual".

In the mean time there is a guy who claims to be queer and he intends to be a priest and the rest of us will just have to put up with it.

There is no end to the insult these whackos will impose on the church. If I had to choose between A Catholic Church with 60% of the Priests to be Homosexual and No Church, I'd pick NO CHURCH.

60 posted on 05/16/2002 4:32:55 PM PDT by chatham
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