Police Seize Rental Truck With Traces of TNT

FoxNews ^ | 05-13-02 | GRRRRR

[tellmethetruth]

America is all too eager to pin anything on those (insert pickle-sniffing face here) ARABS. For once, an article actually mentions Israeli misdeeds and we still try to shift blame. Look up the Lavon Affair.

[hellinahandcart]

As did I. Your post is not the entire article. Moreover, the original story very clearly talked about how explosives were detected on one of the men: A bomb-sniffing dog first detected explosives on one of the men and inside the truck. High tech equipment was used later to confirm the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosive.

So not only are you wrong about having copied the entire article to this forum, but you're also wrong about there being no mention of explosives on one of the men.

Newbie:

Your first post on this thread was at 12:29 ET Today, and you did NOT copy and paste the entire article here, either the original or the revised version. Show me where you did that. You can't, because you didn't.

Furthermore, the sentence you highlighted was not in the article last night, not when terilyn posted the link, and not when I posted the article itself half an hour later. It is an ENTIRELY different article today, in fact. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

[tellmethetruth]

You really think that we as a country should be giving more cash than we already do (over $6 MILLION per day) to Israel? Or should we go ahead and commit more military, maybe even institute the draft? I bet we all know a young man 18-25 years old who is just hoping to be able to give up his life for continued "support" of Israel.

[theirjustdue]

"Don't you think that in this country, with media and politicians that love Israel so much, if those men were indeed Palestinian (or may even be suspected Palestinians) it would have made a much MUCH bigger headline splash?"

Your post above, to Neanderthal (#199), raises an interesting point. Why, if they are Arab, or Palestinian, aren't we, the public, being told?

Interesting that the Seattle P.I. article posted by ValerieUSA in #178, refers to them simply as being "Middle Eastern":

Seattle P.I. "The FBI and other federal agents were investigating two Middle Eastern men "

Something tells me, that perhaps there is much more to this story than is being told.

[tellmethetruth]

Again I assert that our politicians and media are all too quick to identify Arabs or Muslims in connection with anything that might be deemed suspicious behavior. The fact that these men were even mentioned as Israeli, the most media-protected nationality at the moment, points a definite finger. Isn't Fox News afraid of being labelled "Anti-Semite"??

[tellmethetruth]

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is one of the best at white washing a story. It just goes to show that if Israelis come under fire, we can count on most American media to try and sweep over the story. Not once were these men called "Arab" or "Palestinian" In the original Fox News story. They were called "Israeli nationals". Seattle P-I was quick to broaden that term to "Middle Eastern" to get the word "Israeli" out of there.

[TankerKC]

But were they listening to AC/DC at the time of their arrest?

Or, more importantly, was either of them wearing a thong at the time of their arrest?

[hellinahandcart]

My mistake, it was GRRRR who posted the link, and terilyn who first posted the entire article at #12. However, I always look at the linked stories at their source, and that is where I copied the text from before replying yesterday.

Are you going to accuse terilyn of leaving passages out too, or are you just going to admit you were completely wrong and the story has gone through a few recognizable changes since it first went up?

[Mixer]

You really think that we as a country should be giving more cash than we already do (over $6 MILLION per day) to Israel? Or should we go ahead and commit more military, maybe even institute the draft? I bet we all know a young man 18-25 years old who is just hoping to be able to give up his life for continued "support" of Israel.

None of the above but we should start support them by not asking them to withdraw when they are merely defending themselves from terrorist attacks and by not meeting with our enemy (the prince from SA) and making them feel like they are at home with a tour of the President's ranch.

[theirjustdue]

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is one of the best at white washing a story. It just goes to show that if Israelis come under fire, we can count on most American media to try and sweep over the story. Not once were these men called "Arab" or "Palestinian" In the original Fox News story. They were called "Israeli nationals". Seattle P-I was quick to broaden that term to "Middle Eastern" to get the word "Israeli" out of there.

Or, were they called Israeli Nationals in the earlier releases to avoid using the words Palestinian or Arab?

Either way, I'd like the truth and I'd like to know why it appears anyway, that it is being withheld from the public.

[Been There - Done It]

Israel is the ONLY country that I know that makes a distinction between the definition of "National" and "Citizen". While very nearly anybody (with the exception of the Palestinians and their descendants "evicted" in the period 1948-1950 (the residents of the refugee camps) thus the "Right of Return" question) may become a "Citizen", ONLY those of provable Jewish origin can actually become a "National". This extends to many rights read as "privledges" such as the ability to purchase land, obtainability of building permits, e.t.c.

[cgk]

Again I assert that our politicians and media are all too quick to identify Arabs or Muslims in connection with anything that might be deemed suspicious behavior.

And I assert that being Muslim is "suspicious behavior".

Israeli, the most media-protected nationality at the moment

You couldn't be more wrong. But if we're this far along in the conflict and you haven't recognized the media coverage for what it is, there's nothing I can say to make you see it.

[Pining_4_TX]

Don't be too sure. The best way for Israel to get the US to fight their battles is to make it look that we are being attacked, too. I don't trust either side.

[corebreech]

Newbie? Isn't that just a little juvenile?

I posted the article, in its entirety, here, which as you can tell from the timestamp was 08:56pm last night.

Note that I posted the complete article, not some edited version omitting facts that I don't want other people to see.

As we can see from the above post, you are lying when you say you posted the entire story, and you are lying when you say that the sentence I highlighted was not included in the story.

So you're a liar. I've just proven it. Not bad for a newbie.

[RCW2001]

Israelis arrested in Washington cleared by FBI

[Almondjoy]

Well I didn't pin anything on the Arabs.. I simply implied that there can be an Israeli Arab that's all. To assume there are no Israeli terrorists because they haven't crashed planes into any of our tall buildings is about as close in accuracy as setting OJ DIDNT do it.

[clamboat]

I heard that Arab cabdrivers in NYC were honking their horns and jubilantly shouting "Allah Akbar!" to each other on their cabs' radios while the WTC was burning on 9-11. A friend told me this, and I have no reason to doubt it. And that there was a Muslim Pride Parade by that big mosque in Chicago, too, and they were burning the American Flag.

Uhm, yeah, that sound pretty credible! No reason to doubt your friend at all. I'm sure it happened just like that!
(you must be this dumb to breed in America today)

[Been There - Done It]

What does the Ha'aretz article have to do with the differences (as viewed under Israeli law) of Citizens and Nationals?