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1 posted on 05/13/2002 12:04:46 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba
As I read Chuckie's press release he is in favor of both the gun rights and gun control positions. Don't you just love politicians?
33 posted on 05/13/2002 12:46:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Beelzebubba
Ah, so one of the head vipers crawls out of the fascist woodwork to spit his statist venom at the Constitution. Is anyone really suprised. Read the last paragraph -- looks like sweaty-head is talking some fighting words. Of course, he'll never have to pull the trigger himself. No wonder he's so brave.

Sic semper tyrannis!


37 posted on 05/13/2002 12:52:46 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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38 posted on 05/13/2002 12:54:04 PM PDT by mc5cents
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This (Shumer's statements) could be inshrined as a classic example of what it means to "talk out of both sides" of one's face. Broadly interperated? Ok--according to another old Supreme Court decision,that means that the populace is permitted to have access to the very same types of arms as the military. But recently, if it had not been changed before becoming law, California would have defined little Ruger 10-22's as being "assault rifles". I almost wish it had passed as first written, so that the whole thing could have been thrown out. As it is now, everytime the "news" reports on gun seizures, if it's a "long gun", a.k.a rifle---it's called an "assault weapon. Even if it's an old military "relic", bolt action rifle. Five round, fixed, blind magazine, bolt action equals "assault rifle" to the newsies. And probably called that by some of the coppers seizing the same. We should be PASSING OUT M-14's (the semi-auto version) to the law abiding. It sure would make it harder for any land invasion... and do away with a "problem" of potentially using our private arms for the defense of the nation---which is the problem of having a bewildering array of calibers. .308's for everbuddy! The Army can have their full-auto capable .223's.
39 posted on 05/13/2002 12:59:09 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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SCHUCK FUMER

40 posted on 05/13/2002 1:01:18 PM PDT by Benson_Carter
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"When it comes to guns, this is the biggest shift in policy we've seen in decades. It could undermine hundreds of state and local laws that have drastically reduced gun violence and saved countless lives.

Repeat the lies often enough, and people start to believe it.

I'd like to ask Chuckie for some proof that all these gun laws have 'drastically reduced gun violence and saved countless lives'. It's just a lie.

46 posted on 05/13/2002 1:22:15 PM PDT by zoyd
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It's always the preamble: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state...."

I would submit that NOBODY knows what that means, and that ANYONE's interpretation is as valid -
or invalid - as anyone else's.

"...the right of the People to keep and bear arms," however, "shall not be infringed."

The body is quite clear.

48 posted on 05/13/2002 1:26:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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For over sixty years, the Justice Department has interpreted the Second Amendment as applying to those with a reasonable relationship to a well regulated militia

Where are they getting this BS from?

54 posted on 05/13/2002 1:40:37 PM PDT by Ajnin
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Chuck him and the whores he rode in on.
55 posted on 05/13/2002 1:43:15 PM PDT by Sender
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And in other developments, Schumer proposed the only firearm American citizenry should be allowed to own, is yes, the same that the Minutemen used in 1776, a breechloading flintlock. Oh, and he mentioned something about registering all citizens for potential internment if you don't contribute to his campaign for re-election.
58 posted on 05/13/2002 1:46:42 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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Just as you can't falsely shout fireJust as you can't falsely shout fire

Completely wrong analogy.
"Yelling Fire" is a misuse of a right just as using a gun to commit a crime would be.
Ownership is not the same as misusing
61 posted on 05/13/2002 1:52:07 PM PDT by uncbob
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Constitution of the State of New Mexico, Section 6:

"No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms."

63 posted on 05/13/2002 2:01:11 PM PDT by MickMan51
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""Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK. "

Yup, we're just shoot'n up way out here...shoot'n people for cattle rustl'n and haws thiev'n...ever day...

Schumer's a moron to make that statement. If New York had Arizona gun laws maybe they'd have Arizona crime rates.

64 posted on 05/13/2002 2:01:14 PM PDT by in the Arena
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If Schumer said it, he probably intended to support the right to wear T-shirts.
65 posted on 05/13/2002 2:17:38 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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In the famous 1947 SCOTUS case of Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court had the supreme gaul to ignore 150 years of interpretation and declare that there was a "...wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach." Of course, no such wall existed at that or any other time. For 150 years no SCOTUS EVER ruled that way and in fact all other times ruled against anything that would suggest such a thing. The SCOTUS of 1947 decided all on their own to reinterpret the First Amendment. With that said, I don't want to hear one more whinning word on the "reinterpretation" of the Second Amendment. First of all it isn't a "reinterpretation" it was correct the first time. Secondly, we've had enough of the liberals rewriting our constitution. Let's just look at Europe to see what happens when you have ultimate gun control. The escalation of their crime rate is puting the USA to "shame." Criminals have all the arms they want and the citizens are powerless. The police are dying from gunshots while the politicians chide America for its gun ownership. Only liberals can be so irrational and irrelivant. God help us.
69 posted on 05/13/2002 3:51:03 PM PDT by elephantlips
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What is Chuckie so upset about? John Ashcroft simply stated there is an individual RKBA which even Chuckie endorsed! C'mon Chuckie, you can't really believe that is extreme can you? Otherwise take down that statement from your own website and begin marching in lockstep with the gun banners who know it doesn't exist. It would be so much more honest.
71 posted on 05/13/2002 3:58:43 PM PDT by goldstategop
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"Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK.

Chuckie probably doesn't realize it or consciously intend it, but this statement oozes with racism.

73 posted on 05/13/2002 5:03:42 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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