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Sen. Schumer: "...there is an individual right to bear arms..."
Schumer Website ^ | May 8, 2002 | Chuckie Schumer

Posted on 05/13/2002 12:04:46 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: May 8, 2002

SCHUMER CRITICIZES NEW DOJ DECISION TO CHANGE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF GUN OWNERS

Schumer: Ashcroft Decision Betrays Promise "To Follow Letter of the Law" Made During His Controversial Confirmation Hearings

Changing Definition of 2nd Amendment Could Undermine State, Local Gun Laws, End Vital Legal Protections That Reduced Gun Violence, Crime

US Senator Chuck Schumer today criticized the Justice Department's sudden change of interpretation of the Second Amendment, after decades of long-held policy. For over sixty years, the Justice Department has interpreted the Second Amendment as applying to those with a reasonable relationship to a well regulated militia. Now, in a stunning reversal of long-held policy, the Justice Department has argued before the Supreme Court that the Constitution broadly protects the rights of individuals to own firearms.

Schumer made the following statement at a press conference today:

"Yesterday, the Justice Department used footnotes in two Supreme Court briefs to announce a massive change of course in our nation's gun control policy. For the first time in 60 years, the federal government is saying that the right to bear arms is an individual right.

"This decision wasn't made after discussion, debate, and open dialogue. It wasn't made in consultation with Congress and the states. And it wasn't put forward with the kind of detail and analysis that such a significant policy shift would usually come with. Instead, it was done undercover, buried in footnotes.

"The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself. I'm of the view that you can't take a broad approach to other rights, such as First Amendment rights, and then interpret the Second Amendment so narrowly that it could fit in a thimble.

"But I'm also of the view that there are limits on those rights. Just as you can't falsely shout fire in a crowded movie theater, you can put restrictions on who can own guns and how, when, and where they may be possessed.

"At his confirmation hearings, Attorney General Ashcroft swore to enforce and defend all existing federal gun laws. He said, ‘I understand that being Attorney General means enforcing the law as they are written, not enforcing my personal preferences.'

"He also said, ‘I believe that there are constitutional inhibitions on the rights of citizens to bear certain kinds of arms, and some of those I would think good judgment -- some of those I would think bad judgment. But as attorney general it is not my judgment to make that kind of call. My judgment, my responsibility, is to uphold the acts of the legislative branch of this government in that arena, and I would do so and continue to do so in regard to the cases that now exist, and further enactments of the Congress.'

"The case that now exists is the United States v. Miller from 1939. In that case, the Supreme Court said that the Second Amendment protects only those rights that have some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well regulated militia.

"During his confirmation hearings, John Ashcroft made it abundantly clear that he would enforce the law as it is written, not as he'd like it to be. What happened to that pledge? It's hard to look his actions and not question whether he's going back on his word.

"The vote to confirm John Ashcroft's nomination was close, both in committee and in the Senate. Many members of my party who voted to confirm him based their decision on his commitment to follow the letter of the law. I wonder how they feel right now. I wonder if this is what they had in mind.

"The Justice Department is saying that the right to bear arms is subject to "reasonable restrictions." But the devil, as always, is in the details.

"Is the federal ban on assault weapons a reasonable restriction? Is the federal ban on felons owning firearms a reasonable restriction?

"We should know where Attorney General Ashcroft is on these questions but we don't. And we don't know precisely because this was done undercover of darkness, and not through an open process.

"The impact of this policy change is startling. Has the Justice Department considered how state laws will be impacted? Is Maryland's 7-day waiting period unconstitutional? How about California's ban on Saturday night specials?

"The District of Columbia, a city that was once not only the nation's capital, but the nation's murder capital, has one of the strictest gun laws in the country. DOJ's reversal raises questions about how federal prosecutors operating in the District will use this interpretation in prosecuting gun crimes..

"As for New York, we require strict licensing and registration of handguns. And for good reason. States and local communities need to be able to pass gun laws that deal with their own particular issues. What works in one part of the country isn't going to work in another.

"Even within New York State we have different laws because what works in Onondaga County won't necessarily fly in Brooklyn.

"Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK.

"So I'm calling on the Department of Justice to fill in the details on this proposal. I am sending a letter today to Attorney General Ashcroft, asking him to explain the rationale for this policy change and the reasons it was not publicly vetted and discussed with Congress.

"I am also asking him to provide an analysis of the federal, state, and local gun laws that DOJ believes will be affected by this new interpretation of the Second Amendment.

"When it comes to guns, this is the biggest shift in policy we've seen in decades. It could undermine hundreds of state and local laws that have drastically reduced gun violence and saved countless lives.
"This is an underhanded way to avoid debate and it is a clear departure from what John Ashcroft promised to do during his confirmation hearings. To say it's a disappointment would be an understatement. It's a problem, and it's one we're going to deal with, aggressively, starting right now."

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To: aomagrat
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral.

Uh, okay. If so, then why hasn't Arizona reverted to OK corral-hood? Don't forget, even in the old West, the OK Corral incident made news (so was more the exception than the rule), and actually involved LEO's anyway, whom none of today's laws seek to prohibit from having weapons.

41 posted on 05/13/2002 1:03:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: Gritty
But, but, Bush likes him. He hugged him at the speech. He is a pal. A friend. Even if he is a communist, pig sucking, democratic socialist sack of **it!
42 posted on 05/13/2002 1:08:27 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: Still Thinking
Uh, okay. If so, then why hasn't Arizona reverted to OK corral-hood? Don't forget, even in the old West, the OK Corral incident made news (so was more the exception than the rule), and actually involved LEO's anyway, whom none of today's laws seek to prohibit from having weapons.

Exactly my point.

43 posted on 05/13/2002 1:09:40 PM PDT by aomagrat
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To: Lazamataz
This guy is such a lyin' sack. Claims he believes in the Second Amendment but has NEVER voted pro-gun. NOT ONCE.


Chucky's afraid he's losing the gun grabbing issue. The Dem's found that grabbing guns wasn't a vote winning strategy.

44 posted on 05/13/2002 1:17:52 PM PDT by rapsux
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To: Benson_Carter
LOL...that is one great picture!

Ranks right up there with Du'kaka's riding in a tank, or Gore looking down the barrel of his M-16.

Wonder if the guy has ever gotten his hands dirty in his life?

;-)

45 posted on 05/13/2002 1:19:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Beelzebubba
"When it comes to guns, this is the biggest shift in policy we've seen in decades. It could undermine hundreds of state and local laws that have drastically reduced gun violence and saved countless lives.

Repeat the lies often enough, and people start to believe it.

I'd like to ask Chuckie for some proof that all these gun laws have 'drastically reduced gun violence and saved countless lives'. It's just a lie.

46 posted on 05/13/2002 1:22:15 PM PDT by zoyd
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To: spodefly
Someone should tell Chuckie his view is irrelevant. The phrases "Congress shall pass no law" & "shall not be infringed" as well as others pretty much speak for themselves.

It is scary....the No Water in the Desert Lawyers are taking over the country.

47 posted on 05/13/2002 1:22:20 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Beelzebubba
It's always the preamble: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state...."

I would submit that NOBODY knows what that means, and that ANYONE's interpretation is as valid -
or invalid - as anyone else's.

"...the right of the People to keep and bear arms," however, "shall not be infringed."

The body is quite clear.

48 posted on 05/13/2002 1:26:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Lazamataz
We in the corporate world refer to statements like his as CYA Memos. Dems know for a fact that the Gun Control issue led directly to Algore's defeat. They won't let that happen again, at least not in their rhetoric. Tim Johnson in my state has ads with him walking around a marsh with a gun. They know, even in NY. I think they're content to let Gun Control simmer in the background while they work on us a little more, but make no mistake, if Chucky could do it, he'd be rounding up guns this afternoon.
49 posted on 05/13/2002 1:26:58 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: RetiredArmy
But, but, Bush likes him. He hugged him at the speech. He is a pal. A friend. Even if he is a communist, pig sucking, democratic socialist sack of **it!

shhhhhh

50 posted on 05/13/2002 1:31:27 PM PDT by rapsux
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To: Benson_Carter;Lazamataz
"The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself. I'm of the view that you can't take a broad approach to other rights, such as First Amendment rights, and then interpret the Second Amendment so narrowly that it could fit in a thimble."
-Senator Chuck the Schmuck Schumer- 2002

Mark your targets men, for this man has overextended himself for sure this time.

Anybody remember that "Flat Earth Speech" a few years back?

51 posted on 05/13/2002 1:32:30 PM PDT by JFoxbear
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To: EternalVigilance

the Al Gore picture is on my other computer

53 posted on 05/13/2002 1:38:08 PM PDT by Benson_Carter
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To: Beelzebubba
For over sixty years, the Justice Department has interpreted the Second Amendment as applying to those with a reasonable relationship to a well regulated militia

Where are they getting this BS from?

54 posted on 05/13/2002 1:40:37 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Beelzebubba
Chuck him and the whores he rode in on.
55 posted on 05/13/2002 1:43:15 PM PDT by Sender
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To: Benson_Carter
Corrupt socialism is fascism. Since FDR, LBJ, JFK, WJC, the Democrat Party has proven to be the thriving fascism movement in America. Armed citizens are the only counterbalance to the police state statutes and mindset resulting from 9/11. With RINO complicity, with Hillary or any other current Demo leader as President, we would be facing a Constitutional crisis over an armed citizenry.

Any doubts? Read the proposed "Model Emergency Health Powers Act". During the Clintons' last term, about $1,000,000 federal tax dollars from the CDC funded three years of research to write the model EHPA for the states to enact. Some 3 dozens states to date have voted on this police state empowerment. The "State" is thereby granted total powers to seize people and their assets. Fail to take your ordered vaccines, and go to jail with asset forfeiture. There should be no doubts that in this war our families will be "at the front".

The abolute police power of the State is being enacted. Habeas corpus can be suspended, again. Republicans should not be "the party of Lincoln". We must not give away our liberty "under penalty of law".

56 posted on 05/13/2002 1:44:53 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: rapsux
But, but, Bush likes him. He hugged him at the speech. He is a pal. A friend. Even if he is a communist, pig sucking, democratic socialist sack of **it

but, but, we must be tolerant of all views, as long as it doesn't conflict with the politically correct view of gun control, or anything else. sarcasm off (tried to find on my HTML boot camp copy, how to make the off sign for sarcasm.

57 posted on 05/13/2002 1:46:13 PM PDT by rapsux
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To: Beelzebubba
And in other developments, Schumer proposed the only firearm American citizenry should be allowed to own, is yes, the same that the Minutemen used in 1776, a breechloading flintlock. Oh, and he mentioned something about registering all citizens for potential internment if you don't contribute to his campaign for re-election.
58 posted on 05/13/2002 1:46:42 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: FreeperJr.
I can see the court ruling that the RKBA can be restricted

Yes, because the antis will use the tried-and-true bazookas-and-nuclear-warheads argument to force the court to admit that some categories of weapons can be excluded. Then it's just a short hop for a lying sack-o-shinola lawyer to arrive at 'assault weapons' and big magazines. If you give them an inch...

60 posted on 05/13/2002 1:50:08 PM PDT by Sender
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