Sen. Schumer: "...there is an individual right to bear arms..."

Schumer Website ^ | May 8, 2002 | Chuckie Schumer

[uncbob]

Just as you can't falsely shout fireJust as you can't falsely shout fire

Completely wrong analogy.
"Yelling Fire" is a misuse of a right just as using a gun to commit a crime would be.
Ownership is not the same as misusing

[MickMan51]

Constitution of the State of New Mexico, Section 6:

"No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms."

[in the Arena]

""Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK. "

Yup, we're just shoot'n up way out here...shoot'n people for cattle rustl'n and haws thiev'n...ever day...

Schumer's a moron to make that statement. If New York had Arizona gun laws maybe they'd have Arizona crime rates.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

If Schumer said it, he probably intended to support the right to wear T-shirts.

[lowbridge]

But I'm also of the view that there are limits on those rights. Just as you can't falsely shout fire in a crowded movie theater, you can put restrictions on who can own guns and how, when, and where they may be possessed.

This is a stupid argument. You CAN yell fire in a movie theatre. If there is no fire you will be prosecuted AFTER the crime. Chuckie wants gun owners persecuted because they MIGHT commit a crime, and that is an infringement on the 2nd Amendment.

Exactly! How many laws do we have to prevent people from yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? Do we have a seven day waiting period before going to the theater? Do we have to go to our local police department to fill out forms for a permit to attend the theater? Are certain plays banned because they might incite people to yell "fire"?

[Pistolshot]

Constitution of the State of New Mexico, Section 6: "No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms."

This is EXACTLY the case before the New Mexico Supreme Court with regards to Concealed Carry in this state. The law passed had a provision for local municipalities to 'opt out' of allowing CCW. Gun owners are anxiously awaiting a decision on the 'opt out' portion of the law. That provision was designed to kill this law, one way or the other.

[MickMan51]

This is EXACTLY the case before the New Mexico Supreme Court with regards to Concealed Carry in this state. The law passed had a provision for local municipalities to 'opt out' of allowing CCW. Gun owners are anxiously awaiting a decision on the 'opt out' portion of the law. That provision was designed to kill this law, one way or the other.

Yup. And I'm hoping for a "Constitutional Fundamentalist" decision. LOL

[elephantlips]

In the famous 1947 SCOTUS case of Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court had the supreme gaul to ignore 150 years of interpretation and declare that there was a "...wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach." Of course, no such wall existed at that or any other time. For 150 years no SCOTUS EVER ruled that way and in fact all other times ruled against anything that would suggest such a thing. The SCOTUS of 1947 decided all on their own to reinterpret the First Amendment. With that said, I don't want to hear one more whinning word on the "reinterpretation" of the Second Amendment. First of all it isn't a "reinterpretation" it was correct the first time. Secondly, we've had enough of the liberals rewriting our constitution. Let's just look at Europe to see what happens when you have ultimate gun control. The escalation of their crime rate is puting the USA to "shame." Criminals have all the arms they want and the citizens are powerless. The police are dying from gunshots while the politicians chide America for its gun ownership. Only liberals can be so irrational and irrelivant. God help us.

[Lurking Libertarian]

As I read Chuckie's press release he is in favor of both the gun rights and gun control positions. Don't you just love politicians?

And if you read Ashcroft's Supreme Court filings, he says exactly the same thing. Scary.

[goldstategop]

What is Chuckie so upset about? John Ashcroft simply stated there is an individual RKBA which even Chuckie endorsed! C'mon Chuckie, you can't really believe that is extreme can you? Otherwise take down that statement from your own website and begin marching in lockstep with the gun banners who know it doesn't exist. It would be so much more honest.

[Djarum]

It's pathetic that this false analogy is so widely used. HCI, MMM, and Rosie O'Donnell are just a few who have relied on it to support gun control.

[Atlas Sneezed]

"Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK.

Chuckie probably doesn't realize it or consciously intend it, but this statement oozes with racism.

[therut]

I just love the picture of feinstein. I've got one of those ugly guns with the 100 round drum. Bought it from a classified ad for 250.00. Made me feel soooooo gooood. Any single gun loving men out there in freeper world????

[phasma proeliator]

"For the first time in 60 years, the federal government is saying that the right to bear arms is an individual right."

You're G Damn right it is!
just saw Ted Nugent on Gretta on Fox. - gotta Love that man!

[Benson_Carter]

Amen

when it's time to bury your guns, it's time to use them.