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Sen. Schumer: "...there is an individual right to bear arms..."
Schumer Website ^ | May 8, 2002 | Chuckie Schumer

Posted on 05/13/2002 12:04:46 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: May 8, 2002

SCHUMER CRITICIZES NEW DOJ DECISION TO CHANGE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF GUN OWNERS

Schumer: Ashcroft Decision Betrays Promise "To Follow Letter of the Law" Made During His Controversial Confirmation Hearings

Changing Definition of 2nd Amendment Could Undermine State, Local Gun Laws, End Vital Legal Protections That Reduced Gun Violence, Crime

US Senator Chuck Schumer today criticized the Justice Department's sudden change of interpretation of the Second Amendment, after decades of long-held policy. For over sixty years, the Justice Department has interpreted the Second Amendment as applying to those with a reasonable relationship to a well regulated militia. Now, in a stunning reversal of long-held policy, the Justice Department has argued before the Supreme Court that the Constitution broadly protects the rights of individuals to own firearms.

Schumer made the following statement at a press conference today:

"Yesterday, the Justice Department used footnotes in two Supreme Court briefs to announce a massive change of course in our nation's gun control policy. For the first time in 60 years, the federal government is saying that the right to bear arms is an individual right.

"This decision wasn't made after discussion, debate, and open dialogue. It wasn't made in consultation with Congress and the states. And it wasn't put forward with the kind of detail and analysis that such a significant policy shift would usually come with. Instead, it was done undercover, buried in footnotes.

"The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself. I'm of the view that you can't take a broad approach to other rights, such as First Amendment rights, and then interpret the Second Amendment so narrowly that it could fit in a thimble.

"But I'm also of the view that there are limits on those rights. Just as you can't falsely shout fire in a crowded movie theater, you can put restrictions on who can own guns and how, when, and where they may be possessed.

"At his confirmation hearings, Attorney General Ashcroft swore to enforce and defend all existing federal gun laws. He said, ‘I understand that being Attorney General means enforcing the law as they are written, not enforcing my personal preferences.'

"He also said, ‘I believe that there are constitutional inhibitions on the rights of citizens to bear certain kinds of arms, and some of those I would think good judgment -- some of those I would think bad judgment. But as attorney general it is not my judgment to make that kind of call. My judgment, my responsibility, is to uphold the acts of the legislative branch of this government in that arena, and I would do so and continue to do so in regard to the cases that now exist, and further enactments of the Congress.'

"The case that now exists is the United States v. Miller from 1939. In that case, the Supreme Court said that the Second Amendment protects only those rights that have some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well regulated militia.

"During his confirmation hearings, John Ashcroft made it abundantly clear that he would enforce the law as it is written, not as he'd like it to be. What happened to that pledge? It's hard to look his actions and not question whether he's going back on his word.

"The vote to confirm John Ashcroft's nomination was close, both in committee and in the Senate. Many members of my party who voted to confirm him based their decision on his commitment to follow the letter of the law. I wonder how they feel right now. I wonder if this is what they had in mind.

"The Justice Department is saying that the right to bear arms is subject to "reasonable restrictions." But the devil, as always, is in the details.

"Is the federal ban on assault weapons a reasonable restriction? Is the federal ban on felons owning firearms a reasonable restriction?

"We should know where Attorney General Ashcroft is on these questions but we don't. And we don't know precisely because this was done undercover of darkness, and not through an open process.

"The impact of this policy change is startling. Has the Justice Department considered how state laws will be impacted? Is Maryland's 7-day waiting period unconstitutional? How about California's ban on Saturday night specials?

"The District of Columbia, a city that was once not only the nation's capital, but the nation's murder capital, has one of the strictest gun laws in the country. DOJ's reversal raises questions about how federal prosecutors operating in the District will use this interpretation in prosecuting gun crimes..

"As for New York, we require strict licensing and registration of handguns. And for good reason. States and local communities need to be able to pass gun laws that deal with their own particular issues. What works in one part of the country isn't going to work in another.

"Even within New York State we have different laws because what works in Onondaga County won't necessarily fly in Brooklyn.

"Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK.

"So I'm calling on the Department of Justice to fill in the details on this proposal. I am sending a letter today to Attorney General Ashcroft, asking him to explain the rationale for this policy change and the reasons it was not publicly vetted and discussed with Congress.

"I am also asking him to provide an analysis of the federal, state, and local gun laws that DOJ believes will be affected by this new interpretation of the Second Amendment.

"When it comes to guns, this is the biggest shift in policy we've seen in decades. It could undermine hundreds of state and local laws that have drastically reduced gun violence and saved countless lives.
"This is an underhanded way to avoid debate and it is a clear departure from what John Ashcroft promised to do during his confirmation hearings. To say it's a disappointment would be an understatement. It's a problem, and it's one we're going to deal with, aggressively, starting right now."

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To: Beelzebubba
Just as you can't falsely shout fireJust as you can't falsely shout fire

Completely wrong analogy.
"Yelling Fire" is a misuse of a right just as using a gun to commit a crime would be.
Ownership is not the same as misusing
61 posted on 05/13/2002 1:52:07 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Beelzebubba
Constitution of the State of New Mexico, Section 6:

"No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms."

63 posted on 05/13/2002 2:01:11 PM PDT by MickMan51
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To: Beelzebubba
""Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK. "

Yup, we're just shoot'n up way out here...shoot'n people for cattle rustl'n and haws thiev'n...ever day...

Schumer's a moron to make that statement. If New York had Arizona gun laws maybe they'd have Arizona crime rates.

64 posted on 05/13/2002 2:01:14 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Beelzebubba
If Schumer said it, he probably intended to support the right to wear T-shirts.
65 posted on 05/13/2002 2:17:38 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Djarum
But I'm also of the view that there are limits on those rights. Just as you can't falsely shout fire in a crowded movie theater, you can put restrictions on who can own guns and how, when, and where they may be possessed.

This is a stupid argument. You CAN yell fire in a movie theatre. If there is no fire you will be prosecuted AFTER the crime. Chuckie wants gun owners persecuted because they MIGHT commit a crime, and that is an infringement on the 2nd Amendment.

Exactly! How many laws do we have to prevent people from yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? Do we have a seven day waiting period before going to the theater? Do we have to go to our local police department to fill out forms for a permit to attend the theater? Are certain plays banned because they might incite people to yell "fire"?

66 posted on 05/13/2002 2:59:37 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: MickMan51
Constitution of the State of New Mexico, Section 6: "No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms."

This is EXACTLY the case before the New Mexico Supreme Court with regards to Concealed Carry in this state. The law passed had a provision for local municipalities to 'opt out' of allowing CCW. Gun owners are anxiously awaiting a decision on the 'opt out' portion of the law. That provision was designed to kill this law, one way or the other.

67 posted on 05/13/2002 3:11:29 PM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: Pistolshot
This is EXACTLY the case before the New Mexico Supreme Court with regards to Concealed Carry in this state. The law passed had a provision for local municipalities to 'opt out' of allowing CCW. Gun owners are anxiously awaiting a decision on the 'opt out' portion of the law. That provision was designed to kill this law, one way or the other.

Yup. And I'm hoping for a "Constitutional Fundamentalist" decision. LOL

68 posted on 05/13/2002 3:41:39 PM PDT by MickMan51
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To: Beelzebubba
In the famous 1947 SCOTUS case of Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court had the supreme gaul to ignore 150 years of interpretation and declare that there was a "...wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach." Of course, no such wall existed at that or any other time. For 150 years no SCOTUS EVER ruled that way and in fact all other times ruled against anything that would suggest such a thing. The SCOTUS of 1947 decided all on their own to reinterpret the First Amendment. With that said, I don't want to hear one more whinning word on the "reinterpretation" of the Second Amendment. First of all it isn't a "reinterpretation" it was correct the first time. Secondly, we've had enough of the liberals rewriting our constitution. Let's just look at Europe to see what happens when you have ultimate gun control. The escalation of their crime rate is puting the USA to "shame." Criminals have all the arms they want and the citizens are powerless. The police are dying from gunshots while the politicians chide America for its gun ownership. Only liberals can be so irrational and irrelivant. God help us.
69 posted on 05/13/2002 3:51:03 PM PDT by elephantlips
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To: colorado tanker
As I read Chuckie's press release he is in favor of both the gun rights and gun control positions. Don't you just love politicians?

And if you read Ashcroft's Supreme Court filings, he says exactly the same thing. Scary.

70 posted on 05/13/2002 3:55:41 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
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To: Beelzebubba
What is Chuckie so upset about? John Ashcroft simply stated there is an individual RKBA which even Chuckie endorsed! C'mon Chuckie, you can't really believe that is extreme can you? Otherwise take down that statement from your own website and begin marching in lockstep with the gun banners who know it doesn't exist. It would be so much more honest.
71 posted on 05/13/2002 3:58:43 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: lowbridge;sixtycyclehum
It's pathetic that this false analogy is so widely used. HCI, MMM, and Rosie O'Donnell are just a few who have relied on it to support gun control.
72 posted on 05/13/2002 4:05:16 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: Beelzebubba
"Not to put too fine a point on it, but if New York City had Arizona's gun laws, Times Square would look like the OK Corral. And that's not OK.

Chuckie probably doesn't realize it or consciously intend it, but this statement oozes with racism.

73 posted on 05/13/2002 5:03:42 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba
I just love the picture of feinstein. I've got one of those ugly guns with the 100 round drum. Bought it from a classified ad for 250.00. Made me feel soooooo gooood. Any single gun loving men out there in freeper world????
74 posted on 05/13/2002 6:53:57 PM PDT by therut
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To: da_toolman
"For the first time in 60 years, the federal government is saying that the right to bear arms is an individual right."

You're G Damn right it is!
just saw Ted Nugent on Gretta on Fox. - gotta Love that man!

75 posted on 05/13/2002 8:14:50 PM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Amen

when it's time to bury your guns, it's time to use them.

76 posted on 05/14/2002 5:59:31 AM PDT by Benson_Carter
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