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Some have broached the subject on this thread, the matter of Moslem immigrants in Fortuyn's homeland.  I look at it like this.

It occurs to me that there is little difference between unbriddled immigration and full-on invasion.  Both result in the occupation of foreign territory.  One doesn't involve force or guns.  And because it doesn't, it is mistakenly viewed as benign.  It is anything but benign in my opinion.

When tens of millions of illegal aliens enter the United States, they occupy vast regions of US territory.  Due to the tendency of like people to congregated with like people, these regions wind up totally under the controll of the invading hoards.  This is every bit as much an insurgency as an invading army.  Sooner or later the occupying force will constitute the majority status.  Their will, will be domonstrated and old populations will be subjegated.  Cultures and values systems will be replaced.

This is happening with rapidity in Europe and the United States.  The blinding speed with which this is occurring is simply amazing.

What is taking place is not just an invasion.  It is the managed subjegation of sovereign peoples and their homelands.  It is being facilitated by the elected leaders of the free world.  It endangers the self-determinative aspects of the host nations.  As native populations deminish as the rightful airs heirs to decisions that affect their own nations, outside forces userp that right in the interest of foreign values, cultures and sovereignties.

We are seeing the systematic decapitation of self-rule in western nations.  Note that when whites ruled South Africa it was deemed a bad thing.  Try as hard as I might, I have seen no such correlation attached to foreign nationals who have occupied western modernized nation states.  Third worlders rule in this new internationalist environment.

When it comes to western nations these days, you snooze, you lose.

I see nothing but snoozing going on.

8 posted on 05/13/2002 12:32:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Mene, read Doughty's treatise.

Doughty, you have cut through miles of bulls*** and made utter sense.

14 posted on 05/13/2002 12:58:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: DoughtyOne
Word! I believe the term of approval here is, "Bump"? I'm new here.. Teach me your ways! :)
23 posted on 05/13/2002 1:35:18 PM PDT by Omedalus
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To: DoughtyOne
"What is taking place is not just an invasion. It is the managed subjegation of sovereign peoples and their homelands. It is being facilitated by the elected leaders of the free world. "

Yup, and GWB's administration are 'open border' folks.

47 posted on 05/13/2002 3:22:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: DoughtyOne
Don't be so pessimistic. Hardly anyone, besides us political junkies, was even aware of this problem a year ago. People are talking and thinking about this. When push comes to shove, people are going to want to preserve their country and their civilization.

One thing that I can't figure out is why, if immigration is needed so badly in Europe, do they not shift to migrants from Central & South America, and Eastern Europe, home to people eager to assimilate.

63 posted on 05/13/2002 4:51:59 PM PDT by ValenB4
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"It occurs to me that there is little difference between unbriddled immigration and full-on invasion."

I would qualify your definition of "immigration" as unassimilated immigration. But there's more going on than the mere facilitation of immigration by Western "leaders," who seek only to pump more warm bodies into their economies. The "Pursuit of Happiness" used to mean the honoring of G_d, Home and Family." It has been cheapened by, among other things, liberal social engineering to mean "the pursuit of pleasure and entertainment." In a nutshell, people who see the end goal as pleasure ain't gonna have enough crying, puking, needful babies to replace themselves. And this is exactly what's happening. Massive, facilitated, unassimilated immigration is the end game, and we've already lost. A population that doesn't replace itself will, sooner or later, be replaced involuntarily via simple attrition. If there are no longer enough young, strong, patriotic men to defend it, it's no longer ours. Europe hasn't maintained replacement birthrates in decades - America is right behind them. Look where they're making all the babies, then look who's coming to dinner. Bend over and fire up the barby, cuz' we're havin' flamin' shishkebobs tonight.


87 posted on 05/14/2002 9:36:45 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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