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Fortuyn Party Soars in Polls
BBC News ^ | 13 May 2002

Posted on 05/13/2002 11:57:12 AM PDT by July 4th

Pim Fortuyn

Fortuyn's party has attracted new voters since his death

Support for the party of anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn has been increasing since his murder a week ago, a Dutch opinion poll has suggested.

Projected seats

31 Christian Democrats

28 Pim Fortuyn's List

25 Labour

25 Liberals

15 Greens

Nipo poll

With only two days left before Wednesday's general election, Pim Fortuyn's List has overtaken Labour to take second place with 18.5% of the votes, according to the survey by the Nipo research bureau.

A poll by another organisation, Nova, on 3 May put him on 12.4% support, while a Nipo survey on 1 May gave him 17%.

The new poll - the first since Mr Fortuyn's death - puts him only two percentage points behind the leaders, the right-wing Christian Democrats, whose support registers at 20.5%.

Wim Kok

Wim Kok's Labour party has been beaten into third

Support for Mr Fortuyn's party was registered at 18.5%, which would give it 28 of the country's 150 seats.

The Labour Party of outgoing Prime Minister Wim Kok has slid to 16.5%, the poll suggests - dramatically lower than the 29% it achieved in the 1998 election.

If the poll is accurate, it would mean Labour losing nearly half its 45 seats.


The sympathy vote will generate extra support - the problem is that no-one knows if they are able to offer suitable people for the


Kees Lunshof
Political commentator

All election campaigning was stopped after Mr Fortuyn's murder, but BBC correspondents said it had been thought that his party could benefit from a sympathy vote.

Dutch political commentators told BBC News Online that Mr Fortuyn's party was very likely to be in the new Dutch cabinet, if the poll predictions were accurate.

His party could get as many as four or five seats in the 12-member cabinet, said Kees Lunshof of De Telegraaf newspaper.

Mourner at Pim Fortuyn funeral

The Netherlands was shocked at Pim Fortuyn's murder

"The sympathy vote will generate extra support," he told BBC News Online.

"The problem is that no-one knows if they are able to offer suitable people for the job - it's such a new party."

And Frank Poortuyes, of De Volkskrant newspaper, said the left was "taking a hammering" partly because some voters held it responsible for demonising Mr Fortuyn, thereby playing a role in his murder.

The margin of error of the opinion poll is 1.8% for the big parties.

More than 2,100 people were interviewed, fewer than the usual sample of 3,000, as polling was also suspended temporarily after Mr Fortuyn's death.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassination; netherlands; pimfortuyn
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To: Lazamataz
Why should I feel compelled to "show you" anything?...because you say so? That's funny, but not as funny as statements like this one....

Even African-Americans -- despite their troublesome assimilation and ongoing difficulties -- have shown themselves to be a net-positive to our country.

Nope Laz, I'll enjoy watching you work down your list of who can come in, and who can't, and watch to see if you grant a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" to hispanics and swedish Au Pairs.
21 posted on 05/13/2002 1:24:35 PM PDT by wheezer
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To: thud
A populist upwelling ping!
22 posted on 05/13/2002 1:34:16 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: DoughtyOne
Word! I believe the term of approval here is, "Bump"? I'm new here.. Teach me your ways! :)
23 posted on 05/13/2002 1:35:18 PM PDT by Omedalus
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To: wheezer
Support for the party of anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn has been increasing since his murder a week ago, a Dutch opinion poll has suggested.

Politics is a strange bidness...
24 posted on 05/13/2002 1:39:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Vigilanteman
No disrespect to our good friends and Nato ally, Turkey was expressed or implied. The crux of my argument is still valid. The USA is a Judeo/Christian/European construction for the most part. Deal with it.
25 posted on 05/13/2002 1:45:28 PM PDT by ffusco
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To: NormsRevenge
Politics is a strange bidness...

Yup...and even more so when living in "interesting times".
26 posted on 05/13/2002 1:46:32 PM PDT by wheezer
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To: ffusco
In fact, while I have nothing against Turks or Turkey, I see no reason why the Netherlands, for example, is obliged to become Turkey West. There is a Turkey, and it is a big place. Turkey for the Turks and Holland for the Dutch.
27 posted on 05/13/2002 1:48:59 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: wheezer
Why should I feel compelled to "show you" anything?...because you say so?

Translation: "I, wheezer, fold."

Nope Laz, I'll enjoy watching you work down your list of who can come in, and who can't, and watch to see if you grant a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" to hispanics and swedish Au Pairs.

Hispanics? Wonderful and industrious people, rich culture. Admitted.

Swiss? Inventive, mechanically brilliant. Admitted.

Still waiting for you to show me exceptions to my rule.

28 posted on 05/13/2002 1:56:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Translation: "I, wheezer, fold."

Your not very good at translation, Laz.

I think it pretty clearly translates as "I, wheezer, am not at your service".
29 posted on 05/13/2002 2:03:54 PM PDT by wheezer
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To: Lazamataz
It should be noted that the only reason the Turks might be and exception to the Lazamataz Law is that Ataturk made sure that Islame had no influence in Turkish politics.

If you know any Swedish au pairs who would like to care for a 56 yr. old let me know.:>)

30 posted on 05/13/2002 2:04:31 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: wheezer
Your not very good at translation, Laz. I think it pretty clearly translates as "I, wheezer, am not at your service".

You would kill a man to be able to prove me wrong. The sole reason you do not, is because you cannot.

31 posted on 05/13/2002 2:18:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It should be noted that the only reason the Turks might be and exception to the Lazamataz Law is that Ataturk made sure that Islame had no influence in Turkish politics.

Well there you go. Iran also had made great strides towards a secular society, and might have once been thought of more kindly. They still are the most cosmopolitan and modern of the Islamic states, as is -- believe it or not -- Iraq.

If Iraq got rid of the chain around it's neck, Saddam Hussien, the country would explode with prosperity, since they are not a strongly fundamentalist Islamic country.

Islam in general and Wahibbism in particular, is one of the few religions in the world that preaches backwardness and lack of modernity as a virtue. There are a few other races and religions that do so -- Amish spring to mind -- but no other race or religion that embraces backwardsness proactively attempts to forcefully convert other nations and religions to its Medieval way.

If you know any Swedish au pairs who would like to care for a 56 yr. old let me know.:>)

I get first dibs. :o)

32 posted on 05/13/2002 2:23:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
You would kill a man to be able to prove me wrong.

You're flattering yourself a bit too much.
33 posted on 05/13/2002 2:25:04 PM PDT by wheezer
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To: Lazamataz
I think I heard a shot go past your ear.
34 posted on 05/13/2002 2:46:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: skeeter; knighthawk; shermy
And Frank Poortuyes, of De Volkskrant newspaper, said the left was "taking a hammering" partly because some voters held it responsible for demonising Mr Fortuyn, thereby playing a role in his murder.

And isn't De Volkskrant a leftist paper, so that it would only report this if it was impossible to avoid reporting it?

35 posted on 05/13/2002 2:47:42 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Lazamataz's Law: C= 1/I

An nation's civility is measured according to the inverse of the presence of Islam.

C=Civility
I=Islam

36 posted on 05/13/2002 2:48:38 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: aristeides
De Volkskrant

That's a funny name.

37 posted on 05/13/2002 2:51:26 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Shermy
And now people also dare to say they vote Fortuyn. When he was still being demonized many people never told others they would vote Fortuyn.
38 posted on 05/13/2002 2:59:20 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Dog
I will. I will start one between I get home from work and head to the voting boot. When I get home (it could be very busy at the voting boot) I will keep you informed. The definate numbers will be announced after 21.00 local time.
39 posted on 05/13/2002 3:02:49 PM PDT by knighthawk
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