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Mom Sues Over Ejection From School Assembly On Homosexuality
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 5/13/02 | Matt Pyeatt

Posted on 05/13/2002 3:10:36 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: JoshGray
Why was she wanting to attend assemblies her daughter wasn't?

Uh, to see what propaganda a militant pro-homosexual group was spreading in a public school at the taxpayers' expense? As a parent or taxpayer, why shouldn't she have that right?

61 posted on 05/13/2002 6:57:53 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: yendu bwam
We just want our kids to grow up with their innocence intact beyond the age of 7

Have you thought about homeschooling? A friend of our is pulling her 13-year-old out of school. The girl wants to get out.

I wish I could have escaped. That's part of the reason why we're homeschooling our two daughters (4 &7) and loving it.

62 posted on 05/13/2002 6:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: JoshGray
I'd agree with that, though I suspect we'll disagree over acceptable "reasons".

Oh, so you want to discriminate on the basis of thought? Well, you just explained yourself completely.

63 posted on 05/13/2002 6:59:00 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: JoshGray
She's a taxpayer. So. What.

BIG what.

HUGE what

What are you? A freaking communist? A liberal gay? But I repeat myself.

Your type thrives in dark, moist places. I'll be damned if I let you turn our public schools into secret, dark, moist sewers for the propagation of your bilge. The war is on. Cower and scatter, cockroach.

64 posted on 05/13/2002 7:03:09 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: JoshGray
Welcome JG...enjoy your FIRST weekend at freerepublic?

FMCDH!

65 posted on 05/13/2002 7:06:12 AM PDT by nothingnew
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To: No More Gore Anymore; Tralfaze McWatt; Publius6961
Nothing in there about being a taxpayer...

And yet another pro-homo cheerleader joins the ranks of FR to troll the true conservatives.

Just flush this guy!

66 posted on 05/13/2002 7:11:16 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: JoshGray
BTW, the first amendment to the constitution prohibits coercive proselytizing of morality by government representatives (i.e. public school teachers). Not only are these closed public school assembly meetings immoral, they are illegal too.
67 posted on 05/13/2002 7:12:28 AM PDT by Tralfaze McWatt
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To: JoshGray
I think you missed the word "scrutiny".

You honestly think that the prom should be open to the general public and not just students of a school?

68 posted on 05/13/2002 7:14:09 AM PDT by Dales
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To: JoshGray
My comment: Any school assembly (in fact, anything a school does at all) should be open to full public scrutiny.

Your Reply: You're right. But they're not.

At least we agree on the principle that there should be full and open public scrutiny. While I agree with you that there in many cases the schools will try to do things in the dark, away from public observation, this is completely inappropriate. Now, we can discuss the way things are endlessly. It is better discuss the way they should be, and to try to get to that point. At least we agree that schools should be completely open to observation.

Parents and taxpayers hold the power over the schools. They should assert their rights and perogatives aggressively, or else the schools will not respond. Any person who complains about the schools and has not run for school board should have some explaining to do.

69 posted on 05/13/2002 7:14:17 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: JoshGray
Schools should not have to accomodate every John or Jane Doe who walks in off the street with "I'm a taxpayer; show me what I've bought." It's not safe. Public schools can't even protect students from a kindergartener with a pointed-finger gun, and you want them to allow just anyone in on the basis of a tax return?

I vehemently disagree. Any parent/taxpayer has a right to KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HIS/HER CHILDREN ARE BEING TAUGHT (OR INDOCTRINATED WITH). Have parents go through metal detectors and have them frisked. But they have the right. Otherwise, we may as just well sign our children away.

70 posted on 05/13/2002 7:15:00 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: AppyPappy
Schools should not be in the habit of hiding their teaching.

You're right.

So the question becomes "Was the material otherwise available to her?" Missouri law only requires that the material be available for inspection by any person; it does not require, that I can find, that it be open to attendance by any person.

Was the material open to her inspection prior to the assemblies? I assume something was, as she knew enough about it to withhold permission for her daughter's attendance and to tell the school-administration that it was inappropriate.

I submit that she had no purpose at the assembly other than disruption, and she was treated no differently than a disruptive student.

71 posted on 05/13/2002 7:15:19 AM PDT by JoshGray
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To: JoshGray
I submit that she had no purpose at the assembly other than disruption

Proof please. You are assuming something might happen in the future. If she WAS disruptive, she should be removed. But she should not be removed under suspicion of possibly being disruptive. That's a dangerous precendent.

72 posted on 05/13/2002 7:18:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Aquinasfan
We just want our kids to grow up with their innocence intact beyond the age of 7

Have you thought about homeschooling? A friend of our is pulling her 13-year-old out of school. The girl wants to get out.

Thanks. We are thinking about it. We were just in the process of moving our kids to Catholic school when the homosexual molestation crisis hit the airways. We will do whatever is necessary to protect our kids, from both physical and spiritual depravity.

73 posted on 05/13/2002 7:18:51 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: JoshGray
"Schools should not have to accomodate every John or Jane Doe who walks in off the street with "I'm a taxpayer; show me what I've bought." It's not safe. Public schools can't even protect students from a kindergartener with a pointed-finger gun, and you want them to allow just anyone in on the basis of a tax return?

Nor should this pervert group be allowed into the school. THEY are the outsiders who more than likely are NOT taxpayers in this district.

The more this lobby tries to make perversion normal in the eyes of the public the more their evil is exposed.

74 posted on 05/13/2002 7:19:56 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: JoshGray
You have no proof whatsoever that she withheld her permission because no information was provided, and attended the assembly to get that information. Likewise, you can neither prove nor disprove her intentions about 'disruption.'

However, she was asked to attend the assembly by a school-board member, which in and of itself ought to be reason enough to let her attend.

75 posted on 05/13/2002 7:21:10 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: JoshGray
She is a taxpayer therefore she is a source of funds for the assembly in the first place. She is the mother and therefore the legal gaurdian of her children. She is right becuase whe wants to find out what her money is buying and what her children are learning. Even though her child is not at this assembly, there will be others. The kids will be talking about the assembly. The teachers will talk about it durring classrooms time, perhaps even giving assignments about it.

It is simple, most taxpayers don't want their money to support programs they do not agree with. This is a case where people can consider how their money is spent, due to the fact that school board members are voted on. The public has the right to know what they support and do not support through money collected as taxes. It is called Democracy, ever heard of it? .

Most schools have an open door policy to parents. Because they are the parents and have the absolute right to their children at all times.

If this was an issue of an assembly teaching good moral behavior,straight sex is healthy , marriage is good and healty, it is not right to discriminate against white men, or conservative politics You wood be spouting something else. If the schools kept any of the parents out of these assemblies then the liberals and socialists would be comming out of the wood work to protest the forable removable of anyone. You know that is true, so don't try the "typical taxpayer has no right to know what is going on in school... blah... blah ... blah".

76 posted on 05/13/2002 7:22:53 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: gridlock
Things should not be hidden, and this wasn't. There are practical limits for how much access can be allowed. I'm sure you've seen how packed gymnasiums and auditoriums can be with students -- now add in every "concerned citizen" who wishes to attend to check things out, to spy on their kids, to deal dope during the intermissions, to check out what their money is going for, whatever their real reason for being there is. The school may as well lease the local sports arena just in case all the taxpayers get a wild hair to attend the latest production of "Up With People".

It's just not practical.

If her daughter had attended against her express wishes. If she had not been given the opportunity to keep her daughter out. If her daughter had been forced to attend. If there were any consquences whatsoever to her daughter not attending.

If...

Then I would agree that Ms. Loveless has a valid beef. She doesn't. She knew what the material was. She kept her daughter away from it. End of story.

77 posted on 05/13/2002 7:23:34 AM PDT by JoshGray
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To: freedomcrusader
Meant to say "...she did NOT withold her permission..."
78 posted on 05/13/2002 7:23:48 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: JoshGray
"And remember to yell "But I'm a taxpayer..." as they're escorting you out."

Your a friggen liar. Your attempt to cover up this perversion and sugar coat it is blatantly obvious. In my school district, as long as I report to the Principals office first, so they know I am in the building, I can attend just about any activity. The school encourages it.

There is no truth emanating from the mouths of the homo population. They have to lie to push their agenda.

79 posted on 05/13/2002 7:25:06 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: JoshGray
She did not KNOW because the event had not occurred. She suspected.
80 posted on 05/13/2002 7:26:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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