Pro-gun doctor on 60 Minutes - Post comments here.

nralife

[nralife]

Dr Timothy Wheeler, director of Physicians for Responsible Gun Ownership was on 60 Minutes tonight. I can't find a comment thread about this, so please post your comments here or post a link to an existing thread.

[spunkets]

"We have a shotgun and a rifle and I plan to keep them."

Is that to keep the other part of we in line?

LOL, just kidding!

[RLK]

Excuse me but this is really a non-issue does anyone really envision our bungling government going door to door confiscating guns? The A.T.F. would be mired down in Texas for a hundred years. I know that if they decide to come for my guns they will have to kill me and both my sons before they would even get into the house.......

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The ban will be enforced in successive steps beginning with strangulation of manufacturing and ammunition production. The guy you brag about killing will probably be the local town cop you went to high school with and who will be apologetic about having to enforce the law.

[lawdude]

" The only rights one has are those that the society recognizes, and most people recognize that the typical person doesn't need a gun, and that guns are more trouble than they are worth."

HUH? Is your head really that far up your butt? Give a look at the US Constitution, disruptor.

[Shooter 2.5]

All you have to do is read the contract called the Second Amendment.

I think what you are trying to do is describe an evolution of thought. After 40 years, it's swinging the other way. Finally.

[Teacher317]

The only rights one has are those that the society recognizes

So much for 'inalienable rights' and the Constitution... they're just such old and antiquated ideas!

[Texas Mom]

I have a gun. It's the BEST in Feminine Protection.

[MindBender26]

Horace, are you the fellow who played drums in the band with the guy blowing up the mailboxes?

[Texas Mom]

I really don't understand their claim of a right to a gun. The only rights one has are those that the society recognizes, and most people recognize that the typical person doesn't need a gun, and that guns are more trouble than they are worth

Well, let me try and splain it to you. The rights I claim are in the Constitution and your right to say something asanine is also covered in that same Constitution.

[bvw]

Did you see a revolt after the Brady Bill or any of the other Gun laws?

Sho nuff did. It be happened and happen.

So solly, ya'll missed it.

[Waco]

When the congress/courts were considering lberalizing the laws involving porn, magazine content etc. it was often said that an adult should be able to look at/read whatever he wanted. The years pass: When Thomas was up for a S.C. seat, what was the charge leveled to prove he was not fit? He looked at a Playboy magazine!!!!!!! So, all you lawyers out there sure as hell better keep your nose out of those magazines. It could come back to sting you!! The Q-baits are watching!

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

Horace, coming here to Free Republic is a good start. Keep up your reading... you'll learn why folks like Jefferson and Madison felt the right to keep and bear arms was the most important of the enumerated rights in the Bill of Rights. And history has proven them correct, sadly: in the 20th century, far more people were killed by their own governments than by war, natural disaster, and crime combined. And disarmament is always the first step towards tyrrany. Don't think it can't happen here... not if we lose our means of defense against a rogue government.

Besides, the notion that "society" can dictate what you "need" is an inherently dangerous one. Watch out for that.

[spunkets]

"This includes giving certain privilages that require a high burden to retract. We call these rights.

Rights have no relation to privileges. Privileges are extended by the government. Rights are inherent to individuals and never to government.

" If you think Buddha, Mary, or the Tooth Fairy has some other plan, I suggest taking it up with them."

God created men with and gifted them also with Free will, he does not interfere with it and His commandments indicate He expects everyone else to respect Free will also. Free will is a right, not a privilege. Life is a right, not a privilege

[Lazamataz]

I really don't understand their claim of a right to a gun.

No, you don't.

The only rights one has are those that the society recognizes,

I like your logic. It justifies the genocide of Jews in 1940's Germany, and the killing of 30 million Jews, Kulaks, and Ukranians in 1930's Soviet Union. It also justifies the suppression of any poltical dissent in China, currently, including the killing of people who dare speak their mind.

Outstanding. With one sentence you have justified any tyranny on this planet. When I take over, I want you as Propaganda Minister -- until I tire of you and have you 'Retired with Extreme Prejudice'.

and most people recognize that the typical person doesn't need a gun, and that guns are more trouble than they are worth.

Tell that to the 2 million people per year who, using a firearm, ward off personal attack.

I bet you are a Englishman. Most of the English have happily accepted a level of control and usurpation of power of the state that Nazi Germany tried to impose.

[Texas Mom]

Trust your neighbor, but keep your powder dry!

Never mess with a Texas woman with a gun.. Right buffyt?

[Lazamataz]

So you think a magical being gave you "rights".

Well this explains a lot. You are an atheist, but curiously you also seem to reject logic, because your logic allows genocide.

Unless you are interested in asserting genocide is a positive and good thing?

People are bags of water.

Well, you sure are a bag of something.

I'm not as sure as you that it's water.

[nightdriver]

I especially (dis)liked the silly old moo who said "..I just can't understand why people don't want to see fewer people killed (with guns)."

It illustrates precisely what Francis Schaeffer tried to explain to us about political tyranny in this age of "non-reason." This foggy-headed old doctor on 60-Minutes made a serious jump around logic with his ill-advised comment.

[Valin]

The supermagnet Theory:

A huge electro-magnet will be placed above the geographical center of the Continental United States. One day, the switch is thrown, and ALL of America's handguns are collected for proper disposal. Until this magnet is constructed, no effort at gun control should be attempted. There are some concerns over replacement hips, tricycles, and other magnetic objects.

[Lazamataz]

The Kurds aren't "Sadam's own people". Everybody hates the Kurds, from Syria to Turkey.

So it's okay for Saddam to gas and kill them?

Based on this and your other messages: You are the very first advocate for genocide that I have ever met on Free Republic.

[section9]

Well, since you've decided to be the skunk at the Garden Party, was there anything inherently "wrong" with the rape of Cambodia, the various blood purges of Stalin, or the epochal outbreaks of state violence in China during the Communist era?

Your assertion that:

People are bags of water. We have organized ourselves in a manner so that society is generaly content. This includes giving certain privilages that require a high burden to retract. We call these rights.

...presumes that there is no Supreme Being. Okay, I disagree, but let's not stop where you are inevitably headed.

If people are bags of water, it can never be wrong to persecute them, or take away their guns, or turn them into lampshades, or soap. By that same token, it can never be right so to do the same thing.

If there are no transcendent rights or wrongs, then the unending war of all against all continues, nothing is settled, nothing is reaffirmed, and notwithstanding the justice or lack therof of a particular cause or side, the folks with the most guns wins.

Thank your lucky stars that the framers of the Constitution didn't think as you do. If they had, you'd be a zek in some gulag somewhere.

Be Seeing You,

Chris