All together now, Shrug!

Friday May 10th 2002 | Mad Dawgg

[Mad Dawgg]

So what do ya all think? Did Ayn have the formula to rid us of the looters who pose as guardians of our Retirement (Hah) money? I leave it you the Good People of Free Republic to ponder, discuss and flame me and each other at length!

[Mad Dawgg]

PING

[jart]

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[spunky lady]

BUMP.

Why dont we all not pay taxes? All at once? Just like that Cant arrest all of us.

[Mad Dawgg]

"Why dont we all not pay taxes? All at once? Just like that Cant arrest all of us."

Good Idea but very hard to implement...

On the other hand a Large Class Action on behalf of people who believe their Social Security Money is being "Enroned" would not only make headlines, it might actually work if you could get it to the Surpreme Court!

[Mad Dawgg]

See Above post to Spunky lady

[SamAdams76]

I think of my Social Security taxes as money flushed down the toilet. Even today, if you are counting on that Social Security check to make ends meet during retirement, you are screwed. That's why there are so many senior citizens out there bagging groceries and working as security guards. They'll tell you that they take these jobs to "get out of the house." But the truth is, they need that extra money just to get by. Nobody can live on their Social Security checks. The entire program is a fraud.

[tomakaze]

RE:DEAR MAD DOG: I have said it and I'll say it again. INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! 'INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW!' INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW!' INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! INCOME TAX STRIKE NOW! ETC ETC ETC...........................
 
Seconded.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Ohmigosh what are the odds?? I picked up Atlas Shrugged for the first time on Wednesday (at the public library) and started reading it this morning (for reals!). I have never read it before!

[gcruse]

They'll tell you that they take these jobs to "get out of the house." But the truth is, they need that extra money just to get by.

How good of you to attribute lying to senior citizens who would rather do something useful than sit around the house watching Judge Judy all day. You'll find out for yourself when the time comes.

[SamAdams76]

I happen to know this from personal experience. My father is one of them.

[SamAdams76]

And by the way, my father would rather be fishing.

[Too_Bad]

From The Dropout

The Dropout
Who is John Galt?

    About 35 years ago armed with an MBA degree from a well regarded university, I hit the working world ready to work hard and make my mark. In a few years, hard work was paying off with promotions and raises. But there was an unwanted partner in this endeavor who was sharing in the fruits of my labor -- the government. Both the Federal and State government had their hands in my pocket, BIG TIME. They had hatched all sorts of schemes to empty my pocket -- income tax, Social Security tax, Medicare tax, unemployment tax, and disability tax. Rather than resign myself to this taking or rage against it to no effect, I hatched my counter scheme to end this extortion.

    Thanks to a thrifty nature and educated in the mysteries of finance, within 10 years, I had accumulated enough assets to leave the working ranks and become a bona fide Capitalist. No bosses, no clients, no customers. Just plain assets that generated sufficient income to live debt free with the ordinary comforts. All my income had now been reclassified into that category the IRS terms 'UNEARNED' as if it were a guilty theft. HA! In your face, taxman. All the payroll taxes were now gone and my penchant to save remained unabated. There was still one monkey to be thrown off my back -- the income tax. Within ten more years that was gone too by selling assets which generated taxable income and purchasing tax exempt bonds. Be gone taxman forevermore.

Who is John Galt? A friend of mine.

[usconservative]

Ohmigosh what are the odds?? I picked up Atlas Shrugged for the first time on Wednesday (at the public library) and started reading it this morning (for reals!). I have never read it before!

You are in for an awakenening. Trust me when I tell you this, that there will be parts of Atlas Shrugged that you'd rather skip over because it's long, dry, and you get sick of reading the same descriptive words over, and over, and over.

Resist the temptation to skip part of the book. Resist the temptation to give up.

When you complete Atlas Shrugged, you never look at the world the same way again. I first read it all the way through in 1993. What an eye opener. Many of my personal views and convictions were formed as a result of Rand. My strict adherence to personal responsibility and accountability, my view of "leeches" on society, and my views towards government and "moral obligations" dramatically changed.

I'd love to chat and exchange thoughts once you complete teh book. :)

[MadRobotArtist]

Dammit, now here's a book I now have to read. Everyone I know is reading it. Jeez, okay, the peer pressure worked, I'll go get a copy tomorrow. Now, I ask all of you to read a book called, "The Oklahoma City Bombing And The Politics Of Terrorism."

[gcruse]

"My father is one of them."

May be. But he's not all of them.

[another cricket]

My grandfather was another one. He would have rather spent time with his great-grand kids. He didn't want to work, he had to work.

a.cricket

[r9etb]

I have never read it before!

Let me boil it down for you:

All the good guys have neat names, are beautiful, smart, and enjoy violent sex (which they consider to be a philosophical statement). They have no apparent sense of humor, but do seem to enjoy venomous discussions of money and cigarettes. Everything they do is perfect. They can and do invent calculus at an early age.

The bad guys have awful-sounding names. They are rather shapeless, stupid, greedy, and envious in nature. They are liver-lipped, have ugly, watery eyes, and if they are female they wear things like knee-socks. Sex (if they have it) is apparently based on mutual loathing. Nothing they do ever works, except somehow they have always been able to outsmart the smart people.

To be honest, I used to think it was a great book. I read it about 10 times. Halfway through #11, however, I realized that it is not a great book at all. It's dull. Its characters are charicatures, and not very good ones, at that. Ayn Rand's ideas about sex are simply ludicrous.

For a classic review of the book by Whittaker Chambers, go here. It's about half-way down the page.

[MeekOneGOP]

Social Security left as it is will be empty about the time me and the gazillion other
Baby Boomers step in the withdrawal line. It is doomed to failure, mathmatically.......

[MeekOneGOP]

I read Atlas Shrugged in late 1971, during my Senior Year in High School.
I read the Whittaker Chambers review linked in #18, and it was pretty unflattering of Atlas Shrugged.
I would say, if given the choice between reading it, or taking the reviewers advise, I would read it.
In fact, being so long since I read it, I probably ought to pick up a copy myself and read it again.....

As you probably already know, Ayn Rand was Russian born, and loathed the communists.
That is why she is so bitter toward them in her writing.