Posted on 05/04/2002 8:44:54 AM PDT by one2many
RACE AND UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA ADMISSIONS:
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT YOU'LL GET IN?By answering the questions below, you can learn what your chances were of being admitted to the University of Virginia in 1999. Your chances will depend on your skin color and your ethnic group, in addition to your SAT scores, your class rank, your Virginia residency, and whether either of your parents attended the University.
The questions focus on several factors that appear to have been important to the University of Virginia in admitting freshmen in 1999. This program is based on and uses all variables available in the Lerner and Nagai analysis (see above in "What's New") of 1999 admissions data provided by the University of Virginia in response to a request for public records filed by the Center for Equal Opportunity. Additional information--such as athletic status, Virginia county of residence, high school reputation, the number of Advanced Placement courses taken, and extracurricular activities--was not made available to Lerner and Nagai and might also affect an individual's probability of admission.
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The probability of your having been admitted into the 1999 freshman class at the University of Virginia is like a batting average. For example, a probability of 1.000 is guaranteed admission. A probability of .500 is an even chance of admission. A probability of .000 is no chance of admission.
If you believe you were denied admission to the University of Virginia because of your race or ethnic background, you may wish to discuss the matter with a lawyer. The Center for Equal Opportunity believes that discrimination based on race or ethnicity in college admissions is against the law.
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Agreed.
Way to go, Liberals.
To the best of my knowledge, UVa does not separate itself from federal funds in the manner described above. So, in a manner of speaking, they are a "state" school, subject to interference in what should be private, internal decisions like the old diner sign..."We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
Basically, my position on this tends toward the libertarian (note the small "l") but this whole thing is cluttered with the entanglements I have described. If the school doesn't want me as a white male with stellar scores and class standing, I expect the marketplace holds schools that are open to what I could bring to the campus.
Yeah I played around with a number of different scenarios.
Quite enlightening!
We need to form a "United Sucker-Taxpayer College Scholarship Fund".
If you were white with the same qualifications your chance of admittance would be a more realistic 0.84% (yes that's less than one percent). As a note, you get 200 points on your SAT math or verbal by signing your name, attempting to answer ONE question (right or wrong) and turning in the test at that point.
Now lets see how a white applicant would have to perform to get around the same 52% chance as the above demoed black student. The white male is an out-of-state applicant whose parent(s) did not attend UVA. He has a perfect SAT score of 1600 (800 each on Math/Verbal) and a class percentile ranking of 89, which means while fairly smart, he went to school with many other geniuses. So how does he fare in addmittance. He would have a 51.99% chance of admittance, slightly behind the hypothetical black applicant described in the first paragraph.
Ahh, the power of cheese...
It's ironic that the people who are benefitting from this see it as perfectly ethical. There's no denying that if this school's policies favored white students instead, Jesse Jackson and other "black leaders" would be screaming bloody murder and the school's standing as a public or private school would not matter to them in the slightest. They would be suing four ways to Sunday, probably on the basis of "civil rights".
I'm not disputing that UVa discriminates against Whites. It probably does. It also discriminates against people who aren't good basketball players. This helps make a university community. The question is to what extent they will take some applicants so they can say, for example, that they have student from all 50 states. If they try to take as many from North Dakota as from New York, that's dumb. If they take five from North Dakota ahead of five more qualified New Yorkers that's not so bad.
My own (limited) experience in classes I have attended (obviously I choose these classes, and I don't go to basketweaving) where there has been interaction, the Blacks haven't seemed any less intellectual than the Whites.
ML/NJ (occasional racist)
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