GOP leader: Palestinians should move to unsettled Arab lands

Jerusalem Post ^ | May 2, 2002 | The Jerusalem Post Internet Staff

[Cinnamon Girl]

The US Congress will vote today on a proposal to recognize the West Bank as sovereign territory belonging to the State of Israel.

Rep. Richard Armey, the Republican Congressional leader, said the Palestinians should build their national home within a neighboring Arab country.

Armey noted Arab nations have large tracts of unsettled territory where the Palestinians could build a nation.

In Armey's opinion, there is no reason for Israel to hand territory over to the Palestinians in exchange for peace.

The White House is urging Congress at this time to dramatically tone down the proposal's language, Israel Radio reported.

[Dog Gone]

Although the J-Post is usually a reliable source, and U.S. Congress is indeed voting on a related resolution today, this story is inaccurate (as much as I'd like it to be true).

Good catch. I don't have much objection to the resolution, although it's not going to change a thing or do any good. I wonder what the Jerusalem Post was thinking.

[bybybill]

Armey looked like it had been after 5 PM for a long time. .....He is from North Dakota...moved to Texas as an adult

[kezekiel]

How about the Israelis move back to Brooklyn, San Franciso, Frankfurt or London where they lived before they came and stole Palestinian land??

Prior to 1948, the Jews *bought* the land from willing Arab sellers. During the initial war, when the refugees *willingly left*, Israel captured the land in the rest of Israel proper. Very few of the inhabitants in Gaza/West Bank/Golan were "forced" off of their land.

But then, that's just historical fact, and if it doesn't serve "the cause," then why bother with it? Just make stuff up because it sounds good. (/sarcasm)

[My Identity]

Sow the Wind; Reap the Whirlwind!

Thanks to TomGuy for much of the above.

MORAL CLARITY
An honorable, moral solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Isn't the only honorable way to "solve" the Arab-Israeli conflict through the use "ethnic cleansing?" (And by that term I mean the polite, but forceful removal of all 3 million Pali from Eretz Yisrael -- which is not "genocide", as some on the Left misuse the term.) Let me explain.

The current wave of "suicide" bombers (a misnomer, since their primary goal is not suicide but the mass murder of civilians) is unprecedented and unrelenting. But it should not be unexpected. It is the direct (and obviously planned) result of brainwashing that started with Pali children as young as kindergarteners. Look at the faces of the babies in the pictures above. What vomitous horror - visiting this upon their heads. What unspeakable evil.

The Palestinian descent into barbarism does not have some dimly-lit origin. The homicidal-bombers are not some unforseen phenomenom that sprung forth from the "hopelessness" of the populace (as the PA "leaders" would have us believe). They are part and parcel of the war machine created by the PA to wreak systematic havoc on Israel. Someone paid to have the Pali youth trained -- or more accurately, brainwashed -- in "martyrdom". Someone paid to have the explosives acquired and the bombs made. Someone paid to have surveillance put on weak spots in Israeli defenses. Someone paid to have these weapons stored and then distributed to the homicidal-bombers. Someone paid to have videotapes made of the bombers' farewell messages. Someone paid to have these homicidal-bombers transported across security lines. Someone paid to have the deeds of the homicidal-bombers favorably publicized. Someone paid the family tens of thousands of dollars specifically for the "martyrdom" of their children. And, as we are now learning, those paymasters include Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Saudi elite.

The PA has not been preparing its people for peace, but radicalizing them for the sole purpose of destroying Israel. The PA has appointed militant clerics who preach hate and "martyrdom". By doing so, they have knowingly turned this into a religious war, one in which compromise is heretical. And in doing so, the Palestinians have rejected the Oslo premise that the conflict is about borders, about which compromise is required. Indeed, as Henry Kissinger has noted:

In reality, the number of Palestinian leaders... who want peace in the Western sense -- as a point after which the world lives free of tensions with a consciousness of reconciliation -- is minuscule. The fundamental schism is between those who want to bring about the destruction of Israel by continuing the present struggle, and those who believe that an agreement now would be a better strategy to rally forces for the ultimate showdown later on.

The result of Arafat's strategy of hatred is now known: Pali society cannot co-exist in peace with Israel. Recent polls tell the story clearly. Over 87% of the Palis support the murder of Israeli men, women, and children, even babies. Given these numbers and the underlying religious fervor, there is NO POSSIBILITY of a negotiated settlement that would be honored by the Palis within their lifetime. Arafat has filled the Palis with visceral hate to prepare them for unrelenting war. He has brainwashed an entire generation of youngsters to become terror-bombers. He has unleashed almost 10 years of official "judeo-nazi" indoctrination on the Pali people. Arafat has committed crimes not only against the entire populace of Israel, but against Palestinians and their children as well. Truly, these are Crimes against Humanity.

Current conditions make ethnic cleansing not only justified, but morally required. As antithetical as it sounds to liberal ears, ethnic cleansing is literally the only humane solution. To pursue a negotiated settlement is akin to locking a tiger and a human with a gun in the same cage. Assign the roles to whomever you wish, but the result is the same. Someone in the cage is eventually going to be killed, maybe both.

The world community's role in this to date has been to create this inhumane spectacle, this caged, semitic death match. The world community's response going forward ought to be the equivalent of an "Allied invasion of Nazi Germany" because nothing less will suffice to rid the world of this monstrosity. Eject all Arab peoples from Gaza and the West Bank (because once you eliminate the terrorists, their supporters and their families, virtually nobody is left). Then round up the PA "leaders" (including "clerics" and "teachers"), and put them on trial for their Crimes against Humanity. If they are found guilty, hang them in public.

And to the extent that this PA policy was conducted, funded, supported, promoted, or otherwise enabled by their Arab bretheren (notably Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia) then it is incumbent upon these countries to pay for their sins by taking in the Palis. Arabs created this mess. Let Arabs bear the toll for the human misery they created.

Even Tom Friedman of the New York Times has come around, finally grasping the global ramifications of Arafat's evil:

"...all they [the Palestinian leaders] can agree on is what they want to destroy, not what they want to build... Let's be very clear: Palestinians have adopted suicide bombing as a strategic choice... This threatens all civilization because if suicide bombing is allowed to work in Israel, then, like hijacking and airplane bombing, it will be copied and will eventually lead to a bomber... with a nuclear device threatening entire nations."

What is needed is the elimination of this cancer on humanity. End it quickly before more innocent lives are lost. End it now or it will escalate to Weapons of Mass Destruction. End it clearly and with finality so that there is absolutely NO ambiguity that civilization finds this abhorent. If nothing else, as a sop to liberal sensibilities, end it for the children. Moral clarity demands nothing less.

[avenir]

Israel took that land fair and square in a war. It's theirs.

I wish your simple, but profound statement could be plastered across every media outlet in the world. It's just simply the truth.

[RobbyS]

Armey evidently wants to leave Congress with a bang. Now that his son has been defeated ibn the race to replace him, he has no reason at all to pussyfoot around.

[dennisw]

Thanks for the info!

[dyed_in_the_wool]

With the caveat that much of that land strongly resembles Death Valley.

So did much if present day Israel before Zionism. Early on, the Philistines didn't think the land could ever support more than 600,000 settlers at most.
With the help of the British building some dams, power generators and intelligent farming (all initiatives the Philistines rejected) turns out you can grow plants in a desert.
You just have to have backbone and initiative, something seemingly lacking in most Arabs (hiding behind women and children, in churches, going back on their word.) Just my observations. I hope that doesn't seem racist, but I've seen no evidence to the contrary.

[dyed_in_the_wool]

Simplify.
Ask for a definition of a Palestinian 'Civilian'. What's the Age/Gender cutoff?
Apparently, anyone over the age of 10 of either gender is a suspect and therefore liable for liquidation.
Where's the investigations into Pali abuse of the Geneva Convention concerning hiding behind civilians? Seems like there's plenty of proof in Jenin.
The UN is a joke.

[The Irishman]

Israel took that land fair and square in a war. It's theirs.

This is all well and good as far as you and they are concerned, but why does the United States have to pay for this conquest with our tax dollars? And when the reaction comes, as it is certain that there will be a violent reaction, why must American sons die to maintain the new status quo?

BTW. I hope Armey is in the front line of any American contingent involved. First Kosovo, now Palestine, then Iraq, then Iran, then Saudi Arabia, then ...Truly no end in sight for the War Lovers.

Regards.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Michael Medved is wiping the floor with Buchanan on his radio show right now.

[Sword_Svalbardt]

Just say Black September, and the Jordanians shrivel in their boots, or was it sandles? Hm... These people have gotten in line, not just with the Black September idiots, but also those within the Palestinian ranks who preach, and support hate and violence as the answer for all the "wrongs", done against the Palestinians.

With the funding that is being presented by the Syrian's, Libyan's, Iraqi's, and the Iranian's to the Palestinians in support of maintaining the middle east in turmoil. These people have been able to support Fatah, Hamas, Jihad, and Abu Nidal, as well as other factions who "may" propose diversity among the Palestinian/Arab community of that area, have supported the deaths of not only jews from Isreal, but also innocent Palestinians, Americans, and Europeans.

So where do these people get off? What is the right answer in this instance? Since the Palestinians, and Yasser Arafat have continuously made promise after promise, and some pundits (Limbaugh) indicate this is Arafats 35th chance?!

Hello! It's broken, it needs to fixed, the wheel does not reinvented. The Palestinian leadership, and their current method of gathering funds needs to be scrapped big time by the civil West. That's right in my opinion, and it's fair. An Iron Hand will be required to maintain peace in that area. Since I'm a firm believer in flammable ordinance for not only effective force control, but visible recognition that the Palestinian cause is totally whacked.

That's my opinion, and you're welcome to it. Be cool, and freep the radical left.

[My2Cents]

The Jews built a nation of prosperity and promise out of that small tract of land called Israel. Prior to the Zionist movement, that area was a wasteland, informally under the Ottoman Empire, but of no particular value to anyone. The Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" covet the land specifically because Israel is productive and developed. The Palestinians claim to have been in the land "since time immemorial," and yet never did anything to either build a nation, an economy, or a distinct society. Most of the "Palestinians" immigrated to the area (Arafat himself was born in Egypt) only because of what Israel had developed.

What Israel possesses, including the West Bank, was won through military victory in wars that were started by Israel's Arab neighbors. I'm sorry, but what the Arabs lost to Israel, they lost, and frankly, the disputed West Bank was annexed by Jordan as a part of the 1948 war with Israel. In fact, most of the people living in Jordan are technically "Palestinian," so in a real sense, they have their own homeland.

If anyone in the US (Chris Matthews, for example) think that the Palestinians have a legitmate claim on land in or around Israel, why aren't they screaming that the US give back its land to Native American tribes? No one would ever suggest a thing. Why should we impose that kind of solution on Israel?

[eleni121]

With the caveat that much of that land strongly resembles Death Valley.

So did Israel before the influx of Jews. Why does it seem that everywhere Islamics live, the lands look like moonscapes. Let's not forget that most of the so called "palestinians" were settlers as well coming in to the region from all over the place - Eastern Europe, Asia, etc as part of the Ottoman Islamic Turkish method of distributing populations to suit their political and religious needs.

Armey is right of course. Will anyone listen? Of course not. It's not about "palestinians" having a homeland - it's never been about that. It's really about destroying Israel/the Jews/ and not letting the West have its way.

[philosofy123]

Conservatives are duped by this God thing! They think that God has handed out the deed to somebody else's land to these guys from Brooklyn. Again, before I get all kinds of nasty responses, please, there is a difference between rational intellectuals, and foaming at the mouth red necks!

If you can see a synagogues on fire in England, France, Germany, and Spain. The cowboy mentality may say to hell with all these countries, and to hell with the UN, however, the intellectual thinks about the ramification/the long-range effects on Israel's public image. You nut cases need to tone down the rhetoric a couple of notches. There are one billion angry Moslems on this planet. They are scattered in every damn corner of the world! The Moslem embassies in Washington can bring in explosives in their diplomatic pouches, and cause havoc to our subways/malls/buildings….You cannot corner a dog and keep pestering him with a stick and expect him not to bite back.

Suicide bombers are murderers and stupid, and Israel rightfully kicked their ass; now, can we go back to rational negotiations to calm that mess down a bit?

[a_witness]

The US Congress will vote today on a proposal to recognize the West Bank as sovereign territory belonging to the State of Israel. Rep. Richard Armey, the Republican Congressional leader, said the Palestinians should build their national home within a neighboring Arab country.

Big bump for Richard Armey !

[a_witness]

Suicide bombers are murderers and stupid, and Israel rightfully kicked their ass; now, can we go back to rational negotiations to calm that mess down a bit?

No
We can't just all get along.
Not after they attacked our Pentagon and WTC.
Not after our mothers had to jump from burning building with their babies.
Not after terrorists defamed a Passover Seder with a bomb.
Never Again
They had a chance for peace and chose war.
Give them war!

[onedoug]

"You cannot corner a dog and keep pestering him with a stick and expect him not to bite back."

I prefer the analogy of a snake, which needs be killed.

[happygrl]

Thanks for posting the book cover. Didn' realize it received kudos from Theodore White and Barbara Tuchman.

[joyce11111]

In Armey's opinion, there is no reason for Israel to hand territory over to the Palestinians in exchange for peace.

Love it...let's see if it passes.