But let me be clear on this point...they have the worst answers.
"The WOD is failing" (good point for discussion) => "Let's give up and legalize all drugs!" (stupid answer - lacks any sense of reality)
"Free speech needs to be protected" (all in agreement) => "Let's have unrestricted porn! (stupid answer - ignores harm to non-participants)
"Unprovoked violence is immoral" (good Christian ideal) => "Abortion? Gee, I dunno" (ostrich politics)
"We must respond to WTC attacks Constitutionally" => "Let's send in privateers to take out OBL! That's how the War of 1812 was handled!"
and so on...
Thus Mr. D.E. Squat we have a group of people who parade their fine questions around like a peacock in heat shows his feathers - complete with indexed Thomas Jefferson quotes and NORML statistics to support their question. Then they offer their bonehead "solutions". And if you disagree with the degree of boneheadedness of the "solution", then you are accused of disagreeing with the premise of the initial question. A thinly disguised strawman argument. Then comes the usual insults (statist, Bushbot, socialist, etc) directed towards those who point out that their "solutions" don't work in the real world.
Anyway, that's my view of the basis for the rancor between libertarians and conservatives. And no, Libertarians cannot work towards a common solution because they are intensely uncompromising in their ideas, and actually see that as a virtue.
LibTars are also very good at making you pubs look at your own party with a healthy dose of skepticism. You may not agree (never agree?) with us but we do keep you informed and alert.
EBUCK
"The WOD is failing" (good point for discussion)
Correction, it HAS failed. =>
"Let's give up and legalize all drugs!" (stupid answer - lacks any sense of reality)
REleagalize all substances that people put into their bodies. Not just some, like government approved ones. Like alcohol and tobacco, etc.
Portugal decided in the last few days to join several other european countries in abandoning their WOD. I guess those who can't think outside of their own desires lack any sense of reality about what is going on in the world. Not to mention labling the mention of the possibility of relegalization stupid. Kinda like what libertarians are usually accused of.
"Free speech needs to be protected" (all in agreement) => "Let's have unrestricted porn! (stupid answer - ignores harm to non-participants)
Unrestricted? I know that child porn is reviled by every libertarian I have ever met. This is another case of you saying something which is untrue not to mention stupid from my standpoint and then labling it stupid. Your idea of porn and others might be different of course, but I'm sure your definition is the only valid one. In a pigs eye.
"Unprovoked violence is immoral" (good Christian ideal) => "Abortion? Gee, I dunno" (ostrich politics)
So libertarians are the only group that disagrees about abortion? Like Republicans and Democrats or conservatives and liberals? You mean like those groups? I am a libertarian and I'm not confused about my position and I don't know any other libertarians who are confused either, so where you got the idea to make up a statement that they "dunno" is anyones guess.
"We must respond to WTC attacks Constitutionally" => "Let's send in privateers to take out OBL! That's how the War of 1812 was handled!"
So this is the "official" stand of whom? You have an active imagination.
Then comes the usual insults (statist, Bushbot, socialist, etc) directed towards those who point out that their "solutions" don't work in the real world.
So I guess all trhe "solutions" of governments to the problems of drugs, poverty, crime, etc. have worked in the "real world"? If they work, why do we still have those problems? The real world for you filks is really a dream world of your own making.
Anyway, that's my view of the basis for the rancor between libertarians and conservatives. And no, Libertarians cannot work towards a common solution because they are intensely uncompromising in their ideas, and actually see that as a virtue.
Brokering away individual rights is not a compromise, it's a capitualtion. And it is no virtue.