Posted on 05/01/2002 9:09:03 PM PDT by Pokey78
Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Sept. 11 might have also brought down a political movement.
The great free-market revolution that began with the coming to power of Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan at the close of the 1970s has finally reached its Thermidor, or point of reversal. Like the French Revolution, it derived its energy from a simple idea of liberty, to wit, that the modern welfare state had grown too large, and that individuals were excessively regulated. The truth of this idea was vindicated by the sudden and unexpected collapse of Communism in 1989, as well as by the performance of the American and British economies in the 1990s.
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Actually my parents are Republican, always have been. They did teach me to think for myself however, for which I am very greatful. They also gave me "Atlas Shrugged" to read when I was a kid.
I don't despise the Republican Party. In fact, like alot of Libertarians I know, I not only voted for Bush, I contributed to his campaign. (and got on every conservative mailing list in existance..hehe) If we are disappointed with most Republicans who get elected, well, we still prefer them over the Democrats.
I wonder why you seem to despise Libertarians so much? Could it be you don't really understand what one is?
No, it derives that order from reality.
I was wondering if you could give me an ETA on the success of the policies enacted by members of the Republican party? Ya know, like the increase in federal spending on education, the increase in federal spending on crop subsidies, free drugs for seniors, stuff like that.
How about an ETA on when the Republican party is going to start reducing government? Estimates I've read say that they plan on increasing the federal budget to $2.3 trillion by the next election. Hey, pandering to special interest and giving handouts to friends and campaign contributors can get expensive. Phil Graham said that under the Republican plan Social Security will be phased out in 65 years.
I submit to you that the Republican party is dead and has been for at least 50 years. Probably longer.
Libertarian's are anti-government, anti-military, anti-religion, anti-community and anti-society. Don't you libertarian pinheads get it, yet?! How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs. What makes human beings so unique and special among all of Gods creatures, is not just our abilities to think and create, but also our ability to adapt to change. It's what has defined mankind through the millennia. Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser. What utter foolish nonsense. In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens. Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble. As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
Well, most people disagree with your politics and denounce your anti-human proclivities.
LOL, ok good point, but take it from me, every Libertarian I know thinks that Bill Mahr is a joke. (and not a funny one at that) The guy is so not Libertarian.
I get several Libertarian news letters and when Mahr said he was Libertarian, you should have seen the confusion. Basicly the concensus was a collective "Huh,why pick on us? ",
The Libertarian Party platform is void of morals and ethics. If you took the time to read it, objectively, you would understand that. It's quite obvious, even to the casual political observer.
LOL, well you are consistent. Consistently wrong on all counts. Batting .000.
Oh well, you have your ax to grind, I will let you grind in peace. Just don't expect to be taken seriously:)
My observation from posters here is that quite a few are just dopers for whom Libertarianism provides an intellectual figleaf.
The Libertarian Party platform is void of morals and ethics. If you took the time to read it, objectively, you would understand that. It's quite obvious, even to the casual political observer.You're just repeating yourself. I've read the platform. I'm trying to understand why you percieve a dedication to the respect of individual rights morally or ethically void. Please try and be a little more specific that saying: "Libertarians are void of morals and ethics" Repetition is an effective propaganda technique, but I'm looking for something a little deeper than that. Tell me WHY you keep saying that.
Opposition to the taxpayer financed advancement of religious dogma is not anti-religious. Support of a non-interventionist foreign policy is not anti-military. Support of limited government and free-market capitalism is not anti-government. Recognition of, and respect for, individual rights and private property is not anti-community.
How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs.
Oh my god, Regan Man! We can't allow people to be free! They'll make the wrong choices!
Reagan Man is the arbiter of which beliefs and values are "anti-human." What is anti-human anyways?
Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser. What utter foolish nonsense.
Of course, Regan Man knows what's best for everyone else! As such, is morally justified in his mind when he demands the use of force to substitute his own inclinations for those of the human race! We shouldn't allow people to learn from their mistakes. We should instead be strapping people to whipping posts and lashing them bloody to teach them right from wrong.
In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens. Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble. As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
Ya, it's always selfish to live the way one wishes to live. But, it's never selfish to demand that everyone else live the way one wishes to live. Ya, those who oppose taxpayer financed religion are really godless heathens.
While I myself have quit the LP for philosophical and religious reasons, let us be clear about the facts. Libertarians support legal drugs. Drug warriors, DEA, and most every Congresscritter support illegal drugs. As to 'porn for all', it appears that some self-described Libertarians advocate no restrictions whatever, but most in fact recognize limits, especially for minors. LP positions are sometimes right on the money, and other times downright foolish, but I am tired of this 'Libertarians from Hell' type of posting.
I have been more specific. In RE:#47, I told you to read RE:#44. Either you forgot to read it, or you don't understand it. I'm not going to list everything, I find grossly abhorrent about the Libertarian Party platform, here tonight or anyother time for that matter. I've been through all this with the many libertarian defenders, here on FreeRepublic, for the last few years. You're a newbee. It would seem, you have some catch up homework to do on the issues. I already laid out some specifics. Don't blame me for your shortcomings. Do some research in the FR archives.
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