Libertarian's are anti-government, anti-military, anti-religion, anti-community and anti-society. Don't you libertarian pinheads get it, yet?! How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs. What makes human beings so unique and special among all of Gods creatures, is not just our abilities to think and create, but also our ability to adapt to change. It's what has defined mankind through the millennia. Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser. What utter foolish nonsense. In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens. Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble. As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
Well, most people disagree with your politics and denounce your anti-human proclivities.
LOL, well you are consistent. Consistently wrong on all counts. Batting .000.
Oh well, you have your ax to grind, I will let you grind in peace. Just don't expect to be taken seriously:)
Opposition to the taxpayer financed advancement of religious dogma is not anti-religious. Support of a non-interventionist foreign policy is not anti-military. Support of limited government and free-market capitalism is not anti-government. Recognition of, and respect for, individual rights and private property is not anti-community.
How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs.
Oh my god, Regan Man! We can't allow people to be free! They'll make the wrong choices!
Reagan Man is the arbiter of which beliefs and values are "anti-human." What is anti-human anyways?
Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser. What utter foolish nonsense.
Of course, Regan Man knows what's best for everyone else! As such, is morally justified in his mind when he demands the use of force to substitute his own inclinations for those of the human race! We shouldn't allow people to learn from their mistakes. We should instead be strapping people to whipping posts and lashing them bloody to teach them right from wrong.
In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens. Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble. As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
Ya, it's always selfish to live the way one wishes to live. But, it's never selfish to demand that everyone else live the way one wishes to live. Ya, those who oppose taxpayer financed religion are really godless heathens.
And unwittingly, anti-property. They seek the destruction of the very institutions that make private property possible.
The principle of repetetive lying making something true is dear to your heart, eh, Reagan Man? Let us try some logic to cool the flames of your raving.
1. It is not possible to be anti-government while at the same time supporting the Constitution. You misuse of the term suggests to me that you interpret strict adherence to the Constitution as 'anti-government'. Why would that be, I wonder? Perhaps it is because you would like to govern in a manner contrary to that permitted by the Constitution, and are therefore incensed at those who would stand in its defense?
2. I served my term in the military, and am a better man for it. In fact, I advocate mandatory military service of at least two years after graduation from high school. There is nothing like walking the steel decks of ships of war, or carrying arms in the service of one's country, that makes it quite so clear in a man's mind just how fragile is our liberty, and just what we pay to preserve it. I do not believe it is possible for our citizens to properly do their duty and vote to direct the future and the security of this nation without clear understanding of the forces they direct by so doing.
I swore as an oath of my service to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It seems obvious that you and most of those who agree with your drivel have not, or that you have abandoned that oath.
3. Christ stood against a mob of men who had it in their mind to stone an adulteress. If Libertarians opposing the use of force against personal vices strikes you as anti-religion, one wonders what religion you follow. Certainly, you do not follow His example.
4. Communities are as varied as men themselves. I would stand against a community of robbers. I would stand with a community of honest men. Your 'anti-community' accusation is meaningless wordplay.
5. See above.
Don't you libertarian pinheads get it, yet?! How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs.
You have failed to even note any anti-human values above, you have merely asserted them, and each has been shown to you to be patently absurd. Worse, you sound like a Communist, with your whining about human values. It's the same sort of rationalization they use for their libertinistic debauchery.
What makes human beings so unique and special among all of Gods creatures, is not just our abilities to think and create, but also our ability to adapt to change. It's what has defined mankind through the millennia.
Sheer stupidity. Even the simplest of creatures, viruses, adapt to change! What makes man unique is his _singular_ capacity amongst God's creations to know right from wrong, to empathise with his fellow man. We alone are capable of _forbearance_ of force in appreciation of the God given right of others to liberty and self determination, even when we are offended or disgusted. A beast cannot appreciate this; only a man can do so, and clearly, not all men do. Here you are, full of righteous indignation, prepared to strike at your neighbor not for causing you harm, but simply because you are offended by his actions. Is that what passes for Christianity these days? Where in the scriptures did Christ do the same? As I recall, he did it only once, with the moneylenders, and he was terribly ashamed.
I should think one who is so quick to show his piety, wit, and religious fervor would have considered this.
Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser.
Rather, libertarians believe liberty is a necessary but not sufficient ingredient for prosperity and growth. Men cannot grow morally if they are compelled to morality. As has often been noted, character is what one does when no one is looking.
What utter foolish nonsense. In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens.
In my book, your refusal to appreciate the rights of others to live contrary to your own personal view is evil. I am tempted to call you and those who agree with you subhuman, to suggest that perhaps you lack the capacity to make such moral distinctions, but that would be far too lenient. All men are born with conscience; it is the spark of God within us. You do not lack it; you simply turn away from it because it is simpler to behave as a beast, embracing the herd mentality and law of the jungle, afraid to stand up for what you know is right for fear of the reaction of the pack. You are selfish, self-righteous, cowardly, beastial, and brutal. You turn away the soft voice of God in your conscience for the louder baying of your fellow wolves. It makes you safe, and puts you closer what you truly crave, power over your fellow man, the ability to force him to live as you would have him live. These are not the motivations of a Godly man. They are the motivations of a fallen soul, the trading of what is right for what is convenient for you. That makes you evil. You simply are not what you claim to be, none of you.
Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble.
If God had intended man to function as a collective, without individals making their own decisions on morality, he could have easily created men to be such. He chose not to do so. Care to explain the mind of God for us, Reagan Man? Surely, you, or some of your compatriots, are wise enough to explain his reasons. I, however, do not deign to know his intent.
As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
That is correct. As long as we _can_. We need not do so; we need only the liberty to do so, if we choose. Men without choices cannot practice morality; they can only do what they are permitted. Again, I note that you seem limited in some capacity, that you cannot distinguish the difference between the two, and yet, I know that you are not limited. You _choose_ blindness, as did Saul. He spent the rest of his life making up for that. One wonders when the scales will fall from the eyes of you and your ilk.
Well, most people disagree with your politics and denounce your anti-human proclivities.
(shrug) Then we are in good company. Or do you not recall that Pilate tried to release Christ by presenting the populace the choice of Christ or Barrabbas, a murderer, to go free? He stacked the deck, thinking that surely, the crowd would see reason. And yet they screamed for Christ's blood, because they had also been stacked with fanatics. Christ was, to them, an agent provokateur, a man who tolerated whores, thieves, and gamblers in his presense, defended adulteresses, and worst of all, he dared challenge the theocracy that had abandoned the laws of God in favor of the power and prestige their positions brought.
Your kind, who go about blaring how pious you are, disgust me. You do not follow Christ, you follow men. A pious man leads by example, not by the sword, and helps those who are ready to receive his aid, without forcing them. A good man does not seek to steal the freedom that God has given his fellow man, save to defend himself.
You seem like Cain to me, ready and willing to wield a club against your brother simply because you are angered by things that have no bearing on your own choices. It's one of the earliest lessons in the Bible. I don't understand how you could have forgotten it.
Thraka
anti-government Soooo True, are you pro-gubment?
, anti-military Bald faced Lie
, anti-religionAnother Bald Faced Lie
, anti-community Nope, just pro-individual, individual > society
and anti-societyNope, just pro-individual, individual > society. Don't you understand that society is made up of individuals?
Don't you libertarian pinheads get it, yet?! How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs. What makes human beings so unique and special among all of Gods creatures, is not just our abilities to think and create, but also our ability to adapt to change. It's what has defined mankind through the millennia. Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser. What utter foolish nonsense. In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens. Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble. As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
So somehow higher taxes, more gubment intrusion, less freedom and more social engineering enhances mankind? The basic tenent of a society must be "individual rights and freedoms" in order to acheive peace and prosperiety. As soon as one mans obtains power over anothers actions conflict arises.
EBUCK
anti-military,
Sorry, wrong again. Libertarians support the military for the use described in the constitution. To defend the country against aggression. Not for "peace keeping or nation building." Not as a "jobs program," and not for political pork.
anti-religion,
Oops! Wrong again. They're not "anti-religion." They are, however, of the belief that the government has no business being involved in religion. Libertarian doesn't mean atheist.
anti-community and anti-society.
Not at all! Libertarians just believe that the government should live within the rules defined by constitutions. Again, they are strict constructionists, by definition. What you're describing are Anarchists who disagree with all governments.
Don't you libertarian pinheads get it, yet?! How do you expect mankind to exist in a world fill with so many anti-human values and beliefs. What makes human beings so unique and special among all of Gods creatures, is not just our abilities to think and create, but also our ability to adapt to change. It's what has defined mankind through the millennia.
What if one doesn't believe in G-d? Does the belief in G-d automatically make one "good?" What about all those muslim Imams who believe in "their" G-d most devoutly, and spout hatred for the west, as well as Jews? I realize that we can both agree that "they" are wrong, but if one of us (who disagree on G-d) right in our views, the other must be wrong... BTW, if your belief in the "ability to adapt and change" is what makes us so unique, given the short period of time that humans have been on the earth, you must really admire sharks, crocidillians, and cockroaches.
Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser. What utter foolish nonsense. In my book, that makes you libertarians nothing but selfish, godless heathens. Man is a social creature. Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble. As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
Hey, where do I sign up for the pot, porn, and prostitutes?! I sure am glad that your "book" isn't the one that counts!
But seriously, when taken out of context, the Libertarian Platform can look like this, as Rush loves to point out. However, most libertarians are rational human beings, who realize that we do live in a society, and there are certain social cost that must be born by those living in it. Wherever possible though, those costs should be born by those using the services. If one doesn't need those services, and it's possible to opt out of them, the chance should be made available. For instance, if a home owner wanted to save $$ on taxes, he should be able to opt out of fire department service. However, if he had a mortgage, there might be a requirement by the bank to pay for that service. For public schools, well, if you have no children using the public schools, there are good arguments for not having to pay the taxes on them. This would force the creation of neighborhood schools by those with children, as well as religious schools. On the other hand, taxes paying for the roads could be paid by tolls, but in many ways, this would be difficult to collect. So a tax on gasoline is probably the best way to go. Again, people will act out of their own self interest in these areas. As far as trafic laws, of course we need some. Speed limits can be a good thing, especially in residential neighborhoods. Traffic signals and signs are important. It seems that libertarians are split on laws requiring insurance: Some believe that the state has no business requiring the purchase of insurance, while others realize that this is a legitimate cost of the privilage of driving, given the financial damage that can be caused by a car. On the other hand, most libertarians (and many others) are against mandatory helmet laws for motorcyclists and seat belt laws for cars. Another split decision is on child safety seats...
Well, most people disagree with your politics and denounce your anti-human proclivities.
It seems that most people's ideas of libertarians come from what they've heard others say about libertarians, or from people like Bill Mahr, who claims to be libertarian. Well, try not to forget that anyone can claim to be something without actually being that something... After all, David Duke and Trent Lott claim to be Republicans, and Paul Wellstone claims to be a Democrat.
Mark
Libertarian's are anti-government, anti-military, anti-religion, anti-community and anti-society. Don't you libertarian pinheads get it, yet?!
You’re retarded.
Most libertarian's believe that individualism, is all mankind needs to grow and propser.
Libertarians want everyone to live in a social bubble.
Your pretty good at telling people what they believe.
As long as you libertarians can smoke your pot, have your pornography and prostitutes, you're all fat, dumb and happy.
So I like to look at a female ankle every now and then, does that make me a pervert?
Well, most people disagree with your politics and denounce your anti-human proclivities.
Where's your polling data?