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To: white trash redneck
, American civilians owned approximately 122 million firearms and the homicide rate was 9.4 per 100,000 population. In 1992, American civilians owned over 220 million firearms and the homicide rate was 8.5.

Eliminate Black and Hispanic statistics and the murder rate is probably under 4.0

Of course this isn't going to be stated
3 posted on 04/30/2002 8:33:09 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob
"Eliminate Black and Hispanic statistics and the murder rate is probably under 4.0
Actually since Blacks commit over 50% of all homicides, if you elimiate both Black and Hispanic statistics the rate is about 3.0
10 posted on 04/30/2002 8:46:45 AM PDT by ftimmerman
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To: uncbob
Eliminate Black and Hispanic statistics and the murder rate is probably under 4.0

I once read that if you eliminate black males 15-35 (i.e. the drug dealin' yout's) from the stats, the US murder rate is well below Europe's.

We don't have a gun problem, or even a murder problem. We have a drug problem, but we don't seem to have a consensus on a solution.

IMNSHO, there are a number of constituencies which actually thrive on the drug problem. LE likes it, since it creates demand for their services. The big government types, left and right, like it, because it provides justification for them to take charge of the sheeple.

16 posted on 04/30/2002 12:22:50 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: uncbob
Eliminate Black and Hispanic statistics and the murder rate is probably under 4.0

How overall homicide rates compare for whites, hispanics, and blacks (both sexes)
Overall homicide rate per 100,000 for whites, 1999: 3.84.
Homicide rate for persons of Hispanic origin: 9.14.
Homicide rate for blacks: 21.94.

How homicide rates compare for white, hispanic, and black women
Homicide rate for women: 2.94.
Homicide rate for white women: 2.16.
Homicide rate for women of Hispanic origin: 2.99.
Homicide rate for black women: 7.83.

Bonus info on gun ownership and victimization of women (from our good buddies at Violence Policy Center):
27% of whites own a gun.
11% of hispanics own a gun.
16% of blacks own a gun.

Only about 8% of women own a gun.
I was unable to find figures for black women vs. white women, but if one assumes (based on the above info) that white people are 70% more likely to own a gun than black people... a bit of algebra leads me to make an educated guess that, probably:
Around 8.5% of white women own guns.
Only around 5% of black women own guns.

96% of women murdered are murdered by a male.
42% of female murder victims are black women.

Violence Policy Center's response to this victimization of women by armed, violent, physically stronger men:
Demand that all legal handguns in the United States be banned and confiscated.

23 posted on 04/30/2002 5:18:03 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: uncbob
Eliminate Black and Hispanic statistics and the murder rate is probably under 4.0

How overall homicide rates compare for whites, hispanics, and blacks (both sexes)
Overall homicide rate per 100,000 for whites, 1999: 3.84.
Homicide rate for persons of Hispanic origin: 9.14.
Homicide rate for blacks: 21.94.

How homicide rates compare for white, hispanic, and black women
Homicide rate for women: 2.94.
Homicide rate for white women: 2.16.
Homicide rate for women of Hispanic origin: 2.99.
Homicide rate for black women: 7.83.

Bonus info on gun ownership and victimization of women (from our good buddies at Violence Policy Center):
27% of whites own a gun.
11% of hispanics own a gun.
16% of blacks own a gun.

Only about 8% of women own a gun.
I was unable to find figures for black women vs. white women, but if one assumes (based on the above info) that white people are 70% more likely to own a gun than black people... a bit of algebra leads me to make an educated guess that, probably:
Around 8.5% of white women own guns.
Only around 5% of black women own guns.

96% of women murdered are murdered by a male.
42% of female murder victims are black women.
Of the minority of women who own a firearm, the reason for ownership given by 85%: self-defense.

Violence Policy Center's response to this victimization of women by armed, violent, physically stronger men:
Demand that all legal handguns in the United States be banned and confiscated.

24 posted on 04/30/2002 5:19:35 PM PDT by john in missouri
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HAAAAvAAAAd had better watch itself a hell of a lot closer than they have been.
Their reputation's, sooner or later, going to reflect their complicity in producing this level of garbage.
Once the name's shot, that's it.

...& you'd think the HAAAvAAAd brainiacs would know that, too.

28 posted on 04/30/2002 9:05:22 PM PDT by Landru
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