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To: uncbob
Eliminate Black and Hispanic statistics and the murder rate is probably under 4.0

How overall homicide rates compare for whites, hispanics, and blacks (both sexes)
Overall homicide rate per 100,000 for whites, 1999: 3.84.
Homicide rate for persons of Hispanic origin: 9.14.
Homicide rate for blacks: 21.94.

How homicide rates compare for white, hispanic, and black women
Homicide rate for women: 2.94.
Homicide rate for white women: 2.16.
Homicide rate for women of Hispanic origin: 2.99.
Homicide rate for black women: 7.83.

Bonus info on gun ownership and victimization of women (from our good buddies at Violence Policy Center):
27% of whites own a gun.
11% of hispanics own a gun.
16% of blacks own a gun.

Only about 8% of women own a gun.
I was unable to find figures for black women vs. white women, but if one assumes (based on the above info) that white people are 70% more likely to own a gun than black people... a bit of algebra leads me to make an educated guess that, probably:
Around 8.5% of white women own guns.
Only around 5% of black women own guns.

96% of women murdered are murdered by a male.
42% of female murder victims are black women.
Of the minority of women who own a firearm, the reason for ownership given by 85%: self-defense.

Violence Policy Center's response to this victimization of women by armed, violent, physically stronger men:
Demand that all legal handguns in the United States be banned and confiscated.

24 posted on 04/30/2002 5:19:35 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
Sorry... difference between first and second posts is this note:

Of the minority of women who own a firearm, the reason for ownership given by 85%: self-defense.

I tried to abort the punch of the posting button (and thought I had).

25 posted on 04/30/2002 5:23:06 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: white trash redneck; pro2A Mom; technochick99; Saundra Duffy; dbwz; basil; PistolPaknMama...
bump --
thought you guys might be interested in the comparisons in post 24.
26 posted on 04/30/2002 5:28:39 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
Hey John, Thanks for the data and don't take this the wrong way but what's your reference and source for the data above aside from the HIC source you provide ?

I like to have my ducks in a row when I do battle with the unconstitutional socialist's and hate to be asked and not know.........

Stay Safe !

29 posted on 04/30/2002 10:17:50 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: john in missouri
Hey, John, I own 17 guns of different varieties. I enjoy shooting trap/skeet and combat shooting. I think your data is incorrect.
32 posted on 04/30/2002 11:07:10 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: john in missouri
Violence Policy Center's response to this victimization of women by armed, violent, physically stronger men:
Demand that all legal handguns in the United States be banned and confiscated.

Here's another way of saying that:

Violence Policy Center's response to this victimization of women by armed, violent, physically stronger men:

Demand that 7 million American women have their legally owned handguns, purchased for the express purpose of self-defense, forcibly confiscated and taken away from them -- permanently.

Demand that another 1 million American women have legally owned handguns taken away from them which were purchased for other reasons but which could quite readily be used for self-defense.

Demand that another 100 million women be barred, for the rest of their lives, from ever owning a handgun they could possibly use to actively defend their lives and persons.

34 posted on 04/30/2002 11:13:02 PM PDT by john in missouri
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