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From Ozzie Nelson To Ozzy Osbourne
Toogood Reports ^ | April 28, 2002 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/28/2002 4:33:42 PM PDT by Starmaker

It seems that only a few years ago television brought Ozzie and Harriet Nelson into our homes each week. Then again, the current popularity of the MTV show, "The Osbournes," makes it seem like an eternity ago. Outside of similar sounding first names, there is nothing similar between the two principal characters. Neither is there anything similar between the two cultures they represent.

"Ozzie and Harriet" represented traditional America. The family had disagreements but never cursed or used foul language. The father was humorous but never irreverent. The wife was strong but always ladylike. The boys were mischievous but never sinful.

Families could watch an entire season of "Ozzie and Harriet" without ever having their morals attacked or their piety insulted. In fact, fundamental virtues such as honesty, morality, and integrity were integral themes of the show. The show was not the only thing pictured in black and white - so was right and wrong.

However, today's Ozzy knows no such decorum. The Osbournes are crude, vulgar, and profane. Four letter words flow from their mouths faster than water falls over Niagara. That they could even be allowed on television speaks to the debauchery of today's society. That they have become the biggest hit show in MTV's history (even President Bush is said to be "a big fan") means the culture has thoroughly collapsed.

One family therapist explained the show's success saying, "There's a domineering mother and a feeble father, something that's common to many families." She also said, "In some ways, they live a very normal life in this upper-middle-class environment, mixed with a really strange mentality and dysfunction." In other words, people like the Osbournes because they are mixed up and dysfunctional also. If that isn't a commentary on where we are as a culture, I don't know what is!

Then again, is everyone watching MTV? Are the Osbournes truly reflective of our culture? The change agents, who desire to turn America into a place Lucifer himself would enjoy visiting during winter vacations, say, "Yes." Of course, those same people would deny that the Nelsons ever reflected American society. (It's not clear how they can have it both ways.)

Obviously, millions of people in this country today have never heard of "Ozzie and Harriet" and, therefore, have never experienced life in traditional America. Furthermore, the Osbournes and MTV are helping to make sure they never will.



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To: Uncle Meat
I guess I can't talk about intelligence when I don't correct my spelling before I hit the post button.Been getting bad about that lately.
21 posted on 04/28/2002 6:08:13 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: RLK
Throughout my younger years I never heard even one of the men in our neighborhood use the language now routinely heard in movies and on TV. To do so would have got them blackballed from association from other men of stature in the community. How old are you?

I'm 41, and there were plenty of men in my L.A. neighborhood who knew how to cuss, in English and in Spanish.

22 posted on 04/28/2002 6:10:06 PM PDT by rond
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
"He's even Christian and pro-war, for Heaven's sake."
24 posted on 04/28/2002 6:18:49 PM PDT by Mong
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To: RLK
It's the same reason the Clintons have hysterical appeal to many.

There's no comparison between the Osbournes and the Clintons. With the Osbournes, evil is just an act. The Clintons are true evil, deception and lies. Ozzie is a good guy deep down, and Sharon isn't smug and lecturing.

25 posted on 04/28/2002 6:29:24 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Uncle Meat
One time having an argument she shoved a hot punkin pie in his face and shoved him down the stairs of the basement.There was never a dull moment in that household.

Now that's a mean mamma!

26 posted on 04/28/2002 6:50:57 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Trust but Verify
I am part of Generation X I tell you one thing Ozzy kinda remind me of my dad Sharon remind me of my mom also giving advice I think of my dad when he couldn't program Satellite TV try get History Channel from Weather channel Yelling JACKKKK I GETTING F***** Weather Channel HELP F*** THIS TV SUCKS Now that my father right there
27 posted on 04/28/2002 6:59:20 PM PDT by SevenofNine
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To: Trust but Verify
Chuck Baldwin needs to lighten up. The Osbournes are what we all are: flawed.

"Woe to you who say that evil is good and that good is evil"
How does that scripture in Isaiah go?

America needs to repent!

28 posted on 04/28/2002 7:00:41 PM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: rond
I'm 41, and there were plenty of men in my L.A. neighborhood who knew how to cuss, in English and in Spanish.

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That's not nearly old enough to know anything about the condition of this country in 1952, about which you are making statements. Apparently, it's not old enough to have learned much else including how to stay with a point.

As far as language and other patterns among members of the lower classes in California during the 60s, 70s, and 80s, your apparent membership in such equips you to make statements about the area with far more authority than I.

29 posted on 04/28/2002 7:02:13 PM PDT by RLK
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Now that's a mean mamma!

Man,I could write a book about her.She was a trip!

30 posted on 04/28/2002 7:09:46 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: RLK
As far as language and other patterns among members of the lower classes in California during the 60s, 70s, and 80s, your apparent membership in such equips you to make statements about the area with far more authority than I.</i?

Those who persist in pointing out class distinctions have absolutely NO class, RLK. Go crawl back under your elitist rock and learn how to abbreviate decades (it's '60s, '70s, '80s), old man.

31 posted on 04/29/2002 6:19:35 AM PDT by rond
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To: RLK
As far as language and other patterns among members of the lower classes in California during the 60s, 70s, and 80s, your apparent membership in such equips you to make statements about the area with far more authority than I.

Those who persist in pointing out class distinctions have absolutely NO class, RLK. Go crawl back under your elitist rock and learn how to abbreviate decades (it's '60s, '70s, '80s), old man.

32 posted on 04/29/2002 6:20:10 AM PDT by rond
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To: Starmaker
I decided to watch that show one night. What a mistake. Very sad first of all that a family wants to expose themselves in such a way and second of all, if they are truly the way they are on TV they are all in need of help.
33 posted on 04/29/2002 6:23:28 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: Balding_Eagle
OK, I won't include 'you' in the flawed category. I was kinda under the impression that we are all flawed except for One. Sorry if I offended.
34 posted on 04/29/2002 6:28:49 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Taiwan Bocks
You obviously know nothing of Ozzy Osbourne. He is not evil, he doesn't worship evil. His song lyrics are very pro-God, he is very patriotic towards America. Whatever you have heard, you heard wrong.
36 posted on 04/29/2002 6:32:27 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify
Ozzy is funny; that's a main reason why the show is a hit
37 posted on 04/29/2002 6:33:44 AM PDT by luvbach1
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To: Senator Pardek
....why did June and Ward do such a good job with The Beaver, but totally screwed up with Eldridge?

But Eldridge did see the light later on.

38 posted on 04/29/2002 6:35:44 AM PDT by luvbach1
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To: Senator Pardek
In the end, old Eldridge actually turned out all right.
39 posted on 04/29/2002 6:40:29 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Starmaker
From Ozzie Nelson To Ozzy Osbourne

Well, from what is known about both, it appears that Ozzy Osbourne is the better and kinder parent than Ozzie Nelson. The difference is that OO's on-tube life isn't quite so fictionalized as ON's.
40 posted on 04/29/2002 6:40:56 AM PDT by aruanan
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