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personal Archives | 04-25-02 | PsyOp

Posted on 04/25/2002 6:39:50 PM PDT by PsyOp

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To: PsyOp
The following from Clausewitz.com is a partial biography. He did have extensive combat experience during the Napoleonic wars.

Carl Phillip Gottleib von Clausewitz (1780-1831) was a Prussian soldier and intellectual. He came from a humble social background, though his family claimed nobility. He served as a practical field soldier (with extensive combat experience against the armies of the French Revolution and Napoleon), as a staff officer with political/military responsibilities at the very center of the Prussian state, and as a prominent military educator. Clausewitz first entered combat as a cadet at the age of 13, rose to the rank of Major-General at 38, married into the high nobility, moved in rarefied intellectual cirles in Berlin, and wrote a book which has become the most influential work of military philosophy in the Western world.

21 posted on 04/25/2002 9:42:00 PM PDT by Cacique
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He did have extensive combat experience during the Napoleonic wars.

Sorry to have confused you. We were actually discussing Machiavelli, and his book The Art of War, not Clausewitz (I posted a list of his quotations earlier this week). I am well aware of the Baron's military experience - but good addition to the thread anyway.

22 posted on 04/25/2002 10:43:06 PM PDT by PsyOp
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Sun Tzu .......art of war ?? or Machiavelli wrote one also ?!?!?!?!?

Hmmmm..... your depleating my read budget for this week bro....back to the book store in the AM for sure if he's written text of the same title.

Thanks for the great quotes. Do you collect em or have a secret stash of em somewhere you draw from ?

Stay Safe and again Thank You !

23 posted on 04/25/2002 11:53:49 PM PDT by Squantos
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BTTT
24 posted on 04/25/2002 11:59:49 PM PDT by My Identity
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To: PsyOp
ON WAR (VOM KRIEGE), Carl von Clausewitz, First Edition 1832

Edited and Translated by Michael Howard and Peter Paret, 1976, Princeton University Press
25 posted on 04/26/2002 12:04:26 AM PDT by My Identity
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26 posted on 04/26/2002 12:53:47 AM PDT by Squantos
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Nice.
27 posted on 04/26/2002 4:57:12 AM PDT by weikel
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To: Squantos
Great quotes. Thanks!
28 posted on 04/26/2002 10:57:04 AM PDT by PsyOp
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Sun Tzu .......art of war ?? or Machiavelli wrote one also ?!?!?!?!?

Both wrote a book by the same name. You can add Jomini, too.

29 posted on 04/26/2002 11:01:06 AM PDT by PsyOp
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Vegitius was a Roman who gathered ancient writings to help Rome defeat her enemies. Offhand I can't remember what century it was written in but I think it was during Rome's decline.
30 posted on 04/26/2002 3:17:30 PM PDT by Sawdring
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An equal, if not greater, influence of Von Clausewitz is his creation of the General Staff. It has been copied almost without exception to this day.
31 posted on 04/26/2002 11:10:01 PM PDT by SR71A
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I guess that you are aware that all of these texts are available online. The only problems I have are that you can't write in the margins and you can't take a monitor to the "reading room" where I do my best thinking.
32 posted on 04/27/2002 12:49:42 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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Sure ya can ..........print the page(s) and take your notes as you so desire........

Stay Safe !

33 posted on 04/27/2002 1:08:40 AM PDT by Squantos
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you can't take a monitor to the "reading room"

I have that problem, too. That's why I put my favorites in a printable data-base.

34 posted on 04/27/2002 9:28:28 AM PDT by PsyOp
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To: SR71A
his creation of the General Staff.

Depending to which echelon you speak to, this was not neccessarily a good thing! LOL! REMF's!

35 posted on 04/27/2002 9:30:54 AM PDT by PsyOp
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Clausewitz in Operation Iraqi Freedom
36 posted on 08/09/2004 9:06:39 AM PDT by PsyOp (Do not take the first step without considering the last. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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Clauswitz Quoted

Most of Clauswitz is a restatement of the obvious in an unclear writing style.

37 posted on 03/07/2008 1:16:44 PM PST by Age of Reason
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Perhaps you should read a better translation.

As for it being the “obvious”... if it were, there would be far less stupidity dictating world affairs.

If it were obvious, we’d have far more countries actively support the WOT and fighting against Izlamo Fascism.

It may be obvious to you and me, but it would be a mistake to think we are in the majority.


38 posted on 03/07/2008 2:07:34 PM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Cacique

btt


39 posted on 04/25/2008 2:47:47 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Brought up to date.

It is only aggression that calls forth defense, and war along with it. The aggressor is always peace-loving (as Islam always claimed to be); it would prefer to take over our country unopposed. To prevent it’s doing so one must be willing to make war and be prepared for it. In other words it is the weak, those likely to need defense, who should always be armed in order not to be overwhelmed. Thus decrees the art of war. - Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.


40 posted on 04/25/2008 3:13:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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