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Mohammed Atta kept Terrorist e-list
MadCowMorningNews ^ | by Daniel Hopsicker

Posted on 04/25/2002 10:50:53 AM PDT by swarthyguy

Mohamed Atta sent polemical emails, including one containing a gruesome photo of a dead Palestinian child, to a regular email list of some 40 individuals, all of whom became the focus of intense scrutiny from the FBI after the list’s existence became known last September, the MadCowMorningNews has learned.

Alarmingly, the email addresses of several of the names on Atta’s ‘terrorist e-list’ appear to have been, or still are, employees of US defense contractors.

One name on Atta's email list, for example, apparently worked at a Canadian company called Virtual Prototypes, whose website touts the fact that the firm helped prototype the avionics instruments in the F-15 jet fighter, the F-22 Raptor, the B2 bomber and the Apache Longbow, among others.

Another address on the list,, appears to refer to, or perhaps even to be, a female suicide bomber in Chechnya.

Emails from the terrorist ringleader first came into possession of authorities in Punta Gorda, Florida, 30 miles south of Venice. In the immediate aftermath of the attack they were turned over to law enforcement officials by a salesman at an avionics firm located at the nearby Charlotte County Airport.

"Welcome to America's Barbary Coast"

Today Charlotte County Airport is also home, coincidentally or not, to major intrigue involving the disappearance from the County Sheriff's Department of at least 23 helicopters, spirited out of this country, for reasons unknown, to exotic and faraway destinations like Chile, in a General Services Administration Military Surplus program very much like the one that resulted in convictions in Arizona in the Forest Service C130 scandal of a few years ago after a C130 military cargo plane belonging to the US Forest Service was discovered on a runway at the Mexico City Airport with a billion dollars worth of cocaine aboard.

And it includes a cast of characters whose names, it must be stated, seem lifted straight from the transcripts of the Iran Contra Hearings, like Frank Moss and Dietrich Reinhardt, two notorious covert operatives linked over a decade ago to Barry Seal and the infamous Mena, Arkansas.

Moss owns the most conspicuous plane at the airport, a vintage DC3 painted to look like an airborne Ark, which has been sitting at the airport since its seizure two years ago.

And Dietrich Reinhardt, whose Caribe Air appears about to play an increasingly large role in our story, is a partner in a venture at the airport strongly suspected of having been the conduit of the helicopter's disappearance from the County Sheriff's Air Wing.

The local Sheriff says as many as 23 helicopters were stolen.

Wags at the Charlotte County Airport, however, insist that the missing helicopters were merely released on their own recognizance.

But first, Mohamed Atta's e-mail list...

The discovery of Atta's emails came about when a local avionics salesman at Eastern Avionics sold a headset to Marwan Al-Shehhi, authorities said, after which his email address was added to a list kept by the terrorist duo, apparently sharing a single email account.

After being alerted by officials at Eastern Avionics to the existence of the emails, local officials had immediately passed them on to the FBI, where knowledge of their very existence might have disappeared into the black hole where evidence collected by the Bureau oftentimes appears to end up...

But enterprising reporters had already discovered the local angle before the FBI clampdown, and reported it in print as well as on local network TV affiliates.

The story went unreported nationally. Then recently sources close to the investigation released the contents of four of the emails exclusively to the MadCowMorningNews.

"Non-negotiable demands from Paradise."

Atta's email correspondence does not contain any information illuminating the terrorist conspiracy, but is instead of a relatively-mundane political nature.

One note, for example, details the passing of a Muslim figure and asks for prayers.

In another, Atta writes, "I demand the decision-makers in the American University in Cairo withdraw their threats of dismissing a Muslim female student who refused to take off the Niqab…and adhere to their claimed ‘non-discrimination policy’ printed in their catalogue."

A "Niqab" is a face veil, according to Islamic sources, and a 'Niqaabi' is "a sister who covers her face and hands when in public or in the presence of any man outside her immediate family."

After verifying the authenticity of the Atta emails with local officials we shared them with one of the local reporters who first broke the story of their existence just after the World Trade Center attack, and whose first report on the discovery of the emails appeared six months ago. Amy Ochier's subsequent report led the local news last night on NBC's Charlotte County affiliate.

"Tell us again... when did they get here?"

The discovery of Atta's emails deals another blow to the FBI's increasingly-flimsy chronology of the terrorists sojourn in the US, which has Atta's terrorist cadre first arriving in this country from Hamburg in June of 2000 to attend Huffman Aviation in Venice.

But the evidence now surfacing in Charlotte County strongly indicates that Atta and Al-Shehhi were in Punta Gorda as early as April of 2000, and began their training not in Venice but at a soon-to-be-bankrupt flight school thirty miles down the road in Punta Gorda called Professional Aviation, where the school's pupils became a focal point for the FBI's investigation.

At least eight of them were interviewed at least several times each. As at Huffman Aviation, the FBI carted off boxes full of paperwork from the school.

"It looks like some of the terrorists were here first and then went to Venice," stated one Charlotte County official six months ago.

Nothing has changed in the interim.

An unknown number of Arab student pilots were left stranded by Professional Aviation's closure, including a large contingent from Tunisia, said local officials.

When Professional Aviation went belly up, many of the school's students had then moved to Rudi Dekker’s Huffman Aviation in Venice.

Strangely, Professional Aviation was going bankrupt at exactly the same time Huffman Aviation's Rudi Dekkers was generating bad press in nearby Venice for his inability to pay his rent there on-time.

Terrorist ringleader Mohamed Atta was living under an alias in rural Charlotte County, just south of Venice on Florida's Gulf Coast, before moving up to Venice, according to law enforcement officials who state for the record that their investigation ended when they turned over the emails to the FBI.

The feds don't share any of their information, even with local law enforcement, these sources indicated.

One big question is why the FBI has been as silent on all this as Mullah Omar.

Remember him?

TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 911; atta; terror; terrorwar
See original article for numerous links listing news items.
1 posted on 04/25/2002 10:50:53 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: 11B3; abwehr; Alamo-Girl; angkor; aristeides; Betty Jo; Black Jade; bluefish; boston_liberty; ...
I find it quite surprising there were no replies to this old item.

Did you people miss it?

2 posted on 06/20/2002 4:10:13 PM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Nogbad
Thanks for the ping. I don't recall seeing this before.
3 posted on 06/20/2002 4:20:51 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Nogbad
Mad Cow?
4 posted on 06/20/2002 4:31:44 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Nogbad
Did you people miss it?


5 posted on 06/20/2002 4:33:23 PM PDT by EternalHope
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To: swarthyguy
6 posted on 06/20/2002 4:37:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Nogbad
Shoot, i was surprised to see i'd posted it. Must've been some other hot news that day.
7 posted on 06/20/2002 4:38:07 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Nogbad
I did miss this, but somehow I don't see where the linked article of Madcow relates to the posted thread. However very interesting.

I think that Florida should be swarming with FBI and CIA still.

8 posted on 06/20/2002 4:38:32 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Shermy
That's what the hindus call divine revenge.
9 posted on 06/20/2002 4:39:08 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: TexKat
It only provides you with a top level link to the story of the day or whatever. Though today's story should pop up on antiwar soon.
10 posted on 06/20/2002 4:40:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: TexKat
The site has an archive.
11 posted on 06/20/2002 4:42:58 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Nogbad; *TerrOrWar; Lion's Cub
I missed it.
12 posted on 06/20/2002 6:14:27 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Nogbad
I read it when I was researching my 9/11 hijacker timeline. I declined to add any information from it to the timeline because:

1) This information in this piece is corroborated by no other source. I find it extremely difficult to believe that every new outlet in the world other than something called would "miss" such a story.

2) I am highly suspicious of reports of Atta's presence in the United States prior to June 2000. There are a number of these, and not one of them has panned out.

I don't buy this at all. Not one other source has mentioned seeing the extremely memorable Atta being in Punta Gorda in April 2000. There are "Elvis sightings" of Atta all over America between June 2000 and September 2001, but nothing resembling the time and place of this report.

3) I have a big, big problem with the idea that Atta would violate operational security by sending inflammatory e-mails all over the country, even to defense contractors. I can't picture this. I do think that the reported e-mail friendship he had with a Muslim woman in Finland (who after 9/11 put an obituary for Atta in a Helsinki paper) could be possible. But not this.

Remember--except for Nawaq Alhazmi and Khalid Almidhar's time in San Diego in 1999, not one of the 9/11 hijackers ever set foot in a mosque while they were in the USA. The idea was to appear as un-Islamic as possible. ("We're on a mission," they told a motel manager. "A mission of Islam?" he asked. "Oh, no," they replied).

I never believed even a word of this article. Not one thing in it rings true.

13 posted on 06/20/2002 6:38:21 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Ann Archy; Fred Mertz; marron
Note Florida and helicopters in this story.
Any connections to William Harbour and Brown?
14 posted on 06/20/2002 9:16:31 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: denydenydeny; Nogbad; swarthyguy
I have Atta arriving in New York on June 3, 2000 (from Prague, I think).

With that said, there is at least a tiny bit of corroboration for this story. The article itself also appeared at (on April 24, 2002).

Also, the e-mail address does apparently exist; see, a Yahoo Groups posting from Nov. 12, 2001.

15 posted on 06/21/2002 12:12:27 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell; keri; denydenydeny; The Great Satan; swarthyguy
I do not believe this story is made up of whole cloth.
The e-mail address was not invented,
the companies mentioned,
including the Canadian company,
do exist.

The main significance of the story to me is
that the FBI is releasing no facts whatsoever
(other than calculated disinformation)
and whoever knows anything
however minor
about the Atta group
has been told in the strongest possible language
to shut up.

This of course applies most of all to the anthrax business.

16 posted on 06/21/2002 1:34:22 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Nogbad
Thanks. Interesting info on Atta's movements.
17 posted on 06/21/2002 3:13:31 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: Nogbad
The main significance of the story to me is that the FBI is releasing no facts whatsoever (other than calculated disinformation)

Kind of like this article's author. 'Local, unnamed officials,' unnamed 'sources,' an article strongly smelling of calculated disinformation, etc. Nothing to back up the author's information- and no, it doesn't take a genius to look up company names when they've already been released by real news sources that actually quote real people and whose information actually concurs with that of other news sources which also quote real people.

18 posted on 06/21/2002 3:35:29 AM PDT by piasa
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