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Perhaps the current crisis will have the salutary effect of a return to orthodoxy by the faithful -- those Catholics who attend Mass weekly, not just nominal Catholics whose identification with the Church is more cultural than religious. But it can't begin until the bishops themselves make Catholic teaching on these matters a priority.

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5 posted on 04/25/2002 7:27:06 AM PDT by history_matters
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The revolution never quits, does it?
8 posted on 04/25/2002 8:28:14 AM PDT by Askel5
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bump.
9 posted on 04/25/2002 8:34:15 AM PDT by patent
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Bingo. Bumping...
10 posted on 04/25/2002 8:44:47 AM PDT by redhead
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orthodoxy and...holiness

Some people, I think, sometimes forget that a holy person is possible, that the holy or saintly person is, in fact, a large part of what the mission of the Church is about. Factional and denominational debates, unfortunately, often obscure this as well. Virtue, enhanced by grace and devotion, can be present in an extraordinary degree in those so graced with spiritual gifts. It's unfortunate that the current scandals supply more ammunition for an already jaded, secular, and anti-Christian culture. Perhaps this opportunity to suffer humiliation, visited upon all Catholics, may provide an opening for renewed dedication to our highest spiritual values and calling. What we are presented with is the Christ of the Way of the Cross, as always, but with a clearer message of gravity and concern. Those suffering spiritual starvation and moral injury in the culture of death need holy Christians, whatever nonsense the media may try to spin out of this. Perhaps God wants only those with the strength of character who will endure through such a crisis as this. Suffering has always been one means of purification.

13 posted on 04/25/2002 10:16:25 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Shepherds, tend to your flocks!
15 posted on 04/25/2002 10:51:21 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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I love Linda Chavez!

Hey, HM, how do you delete old pinged posts in your self-search? Or do they disappear automatically? ;)

16 posted on 04/25/2002 11:48:48 AM PDT by sfousa
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Linda has it right. Despite what the Holy Father has said, I gather that there is a split even among the Cardinals. As has been the case before, we have wolves in red hats.
17 posted on 04/25/2002 3:58:30 PM PDT by RobbyS
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But it can't begin until the bishops themselves make Catholic teaching on these matters a priority.

I agree. Teaching is going to have to come from the pulpit. Not just on this matter, but on all matters of faith, to bring the faithful back to the beautiful truth of the Catholic Church, The Holy Eucharist.

18 posted on 04/25/2002 7:56:56 PM PDT by Salvation
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