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Posted on 04/24/2002 6:46:46 PM PDT by Pokey78
HOUSTON, April 24 — Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is expected to tell President Bush in stark terms at their meeting on Thursday that the strategic relationship between their two countries will be threatened if Mr. Bush does not moderate his support for Israel's military policies, a person familiar with the Saudi's thinking said today.
In a bleak assessment, he said there was talk within the Saudi royal family and in Arab capitals of using the "oil weapon" against the United States, and demanding that the United States leave strategic military bases in the region.
Such measures, he said, would be a "strategic debacle for the United States."
He also warned of a general drift by Arab leaders toward the radical politics that have been building in the Arab street.
The Saudi message contained undeniable brinkmanship intended to put pressure on Mr. Bush to take a much larger political gamble by imposing a peace settlement on Israelis and Palestinians.
But the Saudi delegation also brought a strong sense of the alarm and crisis that have been heard in Arab capitals.
"It is a mistake to think that our people will not do what is necessary to survive," the person close to the crown prince said, "and if that means we move to the right of bin Laden, so be it; to the left of Qaddafi, so be it; or fly to Baghdad and embrace Saddam like a brother, so be it. It's damned lonely in our part of the world, and we can no longer defend our relationship to our people."
Whatever the possibility of bluster, it is also clear that Abdullah represents not just Saudi Arabia but also the broader voice of the Arab world, symbolized by the peace plan he submitted and that was endorsed at an Arab summit meeting in March.
Those familiar with the prince's "talking points" said he would deliver a blunt message that Mr. Bush is perceived to have endorsed — despite his protests to the contrary — Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's military incursion into the West Bank.
Abdullah believes Mr. Bush has lost credibility by failing to follow through on his demand two weeks ago that Mr. Sharon withdraw Israeli troops from the West Bank and end the sieges of Yasir Arafat's compound in Ramallah and of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.
If those events occur and Mr. Bush makes a commitment "to go for peace" by convening an international conference, as his father did after the Persian Gulf war, to press for a final settlement and a Palestinian state, the Saudi view would change dramatically.
But those close to the Saudi delegation said there was no expectation that Mr. Bush is prepared to apply the pressure necessary to force such an outcome.
"The perception in the Middle East, from the far left to the far right, is that America is totally sponsoring Sharon — not Israel's policies but Sharon's policies — and anyone who tells you less is insulting your intelligence," the person familiar with Abdullah's thinking said.
Western analysts see the prince as a blunt Bedouin leader whose initiative is regarded by many Arabs as a gesture worthy of the late Egyptian leader Anwar el-Sadat, who flew to Jerusalem in 1973 to sue for peace with Menachem Begin. Abdullah's offer, now the Arab world's offer, calls for recognition of Israel and "normal relations" in return for a Palestinian state on lands Israel occupied in 1967.
The Saudi assessment was apparently being conveyed through several private channels.
On Tuesday President Bush's father had lunch with the Saudi foreign minister, Saud al-Faisal, and the kingdom's longtime ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Their specific message could not be learned, but in the familial setting, where Barbara Bush was also the hostess for Princess Haifa, Prince Bandar's wife, the strong strategic and personal ties of the Persian Gulf war that characterized Saudi-American relations a decade ago was a message in itself.
Abdullah, in a luncheon today with Vice President Dick Cheney, was to convey the seriousness with which he regards Thursday's meeting with President Bush as a "last chance" for constructive relations with the Arab world.
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, also flew to Houston to join in last-minute discussions before the summit meeting. A senior official in Washington said Mr. Rumsfeld and General Myers were dispatched to brief the prince personally on the American accomplishments in Afghanistan and in the broader war on terrorism.
"The idea was, if he thought we were strong in Desert Storm, we're 10 times as strong today," one official said. "This was to give him some idea what Afghanistan demonstrated about our capabilities."
United States military commanders in the Persian Gulf region have been building up command centers and equipment depots in Qatar and Kuwait in recent months in anticipation of a possible breach with Riyadh.
Saudi officials assert that American presidents since Richard M. Nixon have been willing to speak more forcefully to Israeli leaders than the current president when American interests were at stake.
"If Bush freed Arafat and cleared Bethlehem, it would be a big victory, show a stiffening of spine," the person close to Abdullah said. "But incremental steps are no longer valid in these circumstances," meaning that Mr. Bush would have to follow up with a major push to fulfill the longstanding expectation of the Palestinians for statehood.
The mood in the Saudi camp was that of gloom and anxiety in private even as Saudi and American officials went ahead with preparations for a warm public encounter with the Bush family.
On Friday, after his meeting with President Bush at his home in Crawford, Abdullah is to take a long train ride to College Station, the central Texas town where the former President Bush will be host at his presidential library. On Saturday, Saudi's Arabia's state oil company is gathering the luminaries of the international energy industry to dine with Abdullah and his party.
But the person close to the prince said that if the summit talks went badly, Abdullah might not complete his stay in Texas. Instead, he might return directly to Riyadh and call for a summit meeting of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, to report to its 44 leaders, who represent 1.2 billion Muslims.
"He wants to say, `I looked the president of the U.S. in the eye and have to report that I failed,' " this person said. His message to the Arabs will be, "Take the responsibility in your own hands, my conscience is clear, before history, God, religion, country and friends."
The person close to Abdullah pointed out that Saudi Arabia's recent assurances that it would use its surplus oil-producing capacity to blunt the effects of Saddam Hussein's 30-day suspension of Iraqi oil exports could quickly change.
That Saudi pledge "was based on a certain set of assumptions, but if you change the assumptions, all bets are off," he said. "We would no longer say what Saddam said was an empty threat, because there come desperate times when you give the unthinkable a chance."
Abdullah is reported to be bitter over the White House's assertion that the president is taking a balanced approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and he wants to evaluate in person whether Mr. Bush understands how his actions are being perceived in the Arab world.
"This is not a mistake or a policy gaffe," the person close to Abdullah said, referring to Mr. Bush's approach. "He made a strategic, conscious decision to go with Sharon, so your national interest is no longer our national interest; now we don't have joint national interests. What it means is that you go your way and we will go ours, economically, militarily and politically — and the antiterror coalition would collapse in the process."
Typical, Liberal VICTIMHOOD crocodile tears!
They are reaping what they sowed by attacking and LOSING!
Why have you joined the endless chorus of the "Victimhood Singers?"
Sure, I know a few former so-called "Palistinians" living right here and they are Christians and they are decent people that I respect. They are fighting here today with the Enviro-NIMBY-Terrorists to keep and control the land they bought here (after losing their's over there) with normal investment backed expectations and they are losing again, here, TOO!!!
The Liberals are making them "Victims" and driving them off their land RIGHT HERE and using our government to do it in your name! What are you doing about that?
No its a mistake to assume that the rags on your head won't go up in flames when a few nukes are dropped on you. Next to the French, Arabs are the easiest asses to kick!
I did. But it has all been undone by the CA Liberal/Demonicrat/EnviroNaziMedia machine!
Now that's what I call a "Victim!" First you own land in a REGION known as "Palistine," (Not a Nation) and your friends attack Isreal, (An Actual Nation, not virtual) they lose your land for you in the counter attack.
THEN, you move to CA and get a bank to help you leverage your new land with a new lease on life. Then "Americans" stop you from doing anything constructive/productive with your land for so long that you lose it back to the bank in the "cause" of stopping "Urban Sprawl.(actually, we should be stopping "Government Sprawl!)
Now that's what I call a REAL victim! Not those whiners over in the justifiably occupied territories. There is NO justification for what's happening right here. This is NOT the "America" I was raised to believe in. We have "Rural Cleansing," worse than "Ethnic Cleansing," and you are not even thinking about it, let alone speaking out against it!
This Opecker Prince will make some noise and leave with his tail between his legs.
If the Opecker Princes and their hired killers, the terrorists in the Middle East and the world, could have done anything. They would have done it the past few weeks.
All they could do was urinate into the wind with their American Pressitutes and the Axis of Whining Weasels, (the Euro Trash Countries). We all know what happens when loud mouth cowards try to urinate into a real strong wind. They end up being more stinky and repulsive to look at!
Their main tools in America, Mullah Shorty Da$$hole and his fellow Rat senators and the enviral nazis stopped us from drilling in Anwr. That keeps us dependent on Opecker Oil. However, there are other sources.
Get rid of Da$$hole and his fellow enviral rats and these slimey/stinky Opecker Princes will have zero power. The day we don't need Opecker Oil, is the day these goat buggers leave their Mercedes Limos by the side of the road and get back on camels. Without our Petro $'s, they become nothing but petty stinking Nomads and the terrorist financed by them are reduced to throwing stones and Molotov cocktails. Of course when you take a stone or Molotov Cocktail to a fight with the IDF, you become a meal for the maggots and the vultures.
You GO, Grampa! Hit 'em again, harder... HARDER!!!
You're gittin my "Mental Movies" in high gear... seein them "Opeckers" peein inta the wind is hilarious!!!
The OPECKER PRINCES while copy righted, is free for all conservatives on Free Republic to use.
The more we use the term OPECKER PRINCES and tie them into the financing of world terrorism and their buds here in America, Rat and Rino Senators and of course your and my favorites the Enviral Nazis and their sisters the Enviral Nannies, the more Americans we will wake up.
I can guarantee you that when these OPECKER PRINCES no longer have our Petro $'s that their world terrorism franchises will become impotent and so will most of the enviral groups in America and around the world!
At a dinner party this Tuesday, I brought 3 couples around and awaken them to the deadly link re terrorism and the Opecker Princes and their buds here in America. They are telling their friends, relatives and all who listen to them.
ABORT THE OPECKER PRINCES
LET AMERICA BECOME OIL INDEPENDENT!
Saudi not mulling "oil as weapon"--Saudi embassy
Someone on Fox just said this might be a bin Laden fan trying to drive a wedge between the Saudis and the US.
Dog saw a clip on MSNBC and Cheney is there IN Crawford. All the big guns are at the ranch. I somehow don't think this meeting is about the Palestinians. Just a hunch.
The host had some interesting translations of what the PA raghead politicians were saying in Arabic about the so called terrible things the Jews did recently versus what they are saying in Englis. They are admitting in Arabic that nothing happened while feeding the Bravo Sierra that the Arabs do so well to our pressitutes.
You could be our analysist on Hannity and Butthead to keep Sean on track and to show how Butthead is lying everytime his 10 inch eyebrow rises to his hair line! You could do a John Madden with an instant replay showing how Butthead's world longest eyebrow rose during his latest lie (whenever he opens his liberal mouth). Then, you could tell the audience what the truth is without the leftist lies and mantras!
Are there any other threads on this?
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The "Marple Method" of analysing news stories should be written up with practice lessons and taught to all our children.
D'ya think we disrupted the main bomb factory?
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