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Text of Pope's Address to U.S. Cardinals
MSNBC ^ | 23 April A.D. 2002 | Pope John Paul II

Posted on 04/23/2002 7:18:12 AM PDT by history_matters

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1 posted on 04/23/2002 7:18:12 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: Slyfox; Aunt Polgara; Codie; ELS; katnip;viadexter; pax_et_bonum; Romulus; GenXFreedomFighter...
p i n g
2 posted on 04/23/2002 7:18:49 AM PDT by history_matters
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Thanks for the ping. Good speech.
4 posted on 04/23/2002 7:31:07 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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I agree good statement, now the ball is in the Bishops' court.

The abuse which has caused this crisis is by every standard wrong and rightly considered a crime by society; it is also an appalling sin in the eyes of God. To the victims and their families, wherever they may be, I express my profound sense of solidarity and concern.

People need to know that there is no place in the priesthood and religious life for those who would harm the young.

We must refer all allegations to proper civil investigators for objective investigations.

6 posted on 04/23/2002 7:36:10 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Vesuvius
I will wait before I judge your words.

At this point, I agree that these are just words that the Pope has issued. In America, it's really easy to identify words written for political purposes. These are political words at this time.

Let's see if actions follow.

If SOMEONE isn't fired....some priest, some religious, then these are just words and nothing more.

If SOME BISHOP/CARDINAL is not removed from office or deprived of status, then these are just words. Remove Law's "cardinal" status and retain his bishopric. That will speak to me. Removing LAW completely will speak volumes to me.

7 posted on 04/23/2002 7:43:55 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Vesuvius
JPII you don't have a clue.

Yes, he does. He understands the big picture completely. Your continuing disrespect for the Holy Father is noted, WT Sherman4.

8 posted on 04/23/2002 7:49:12 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: xzins
Removing LAW completely will speak volumes to me.

I'm afraid there are many who think he'd make a good sacrifice play.

I'd rather see them go deeper ... instead of pulling in the FBI to supervise their Compliance Programs and Peer Group Collectives, they might try excising at the start the influence of the "clinical experts" who've normalized homosexuality at the gates of the seminary.

9 posted on 04/23/2002 8:08:01 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: history_matters
The abuse of the young is a grave symptom of a crisis affecting not only the Church but society as a whole.

Supreme Court Upholds "Virtual" Child Porn

10 posted on 04/23/2002 8:10:39 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Vesuvius
JPII you don't have a clue.

At this point I agree with you
I will change my mind if heads roll but I am not expecting it

I am looking forward to see how Buckley, Buchanan, Bennet, etal handle this in their editorials

This ain't no different than the BS that occurred after WACO and Ruby Ridge. Nobody gets punished
11 posted on 04/23/2002 8:17:30 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Vesuvius
He is simply mouthing the obvious platitudes that even a pathetic idiot can see. ... JPII you don't have a clue.

Even if you disagree with the actions the Pope has taken so far, why maintain such a disrespectful attitude towards him? The Holy Father is a much more intelligent man than you, and has done far more for the Church than you. Respectfully disagree with him, but don't make yourself look like more of a fool than you already have by your lack of civility.

12 posted on 04/23/2002 8:39:35 AM PDT by jrherreid
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your lack of civility

It's not merely a lack of civility, it's a gross lack of charity.

13 posted on 04/23/2002 8:47:32 AM PDT by Campion
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To: history_matters
Didn't see him mention homosexuals even once.
Are there any RC's out there who still do not think this is mainly a homosexual problem?
Could you imagine the harm it would do to the homosexiual movement if the holy father himself called it what it really is?
That is why he won't, and that is why I'm leaving the church.
Currupt and perverse, the evil one has his teeth firmly into the church.
14 posted on 04/23/2002 8:53:48 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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The abuse of the young is a grave symptom of a crisis...

Exactly! The real sickness is deeper. He gets it all right.

15 posted on 04/23/2002 9:09:40 AM PDT by Romulus
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Respectfully disagree with him, but don't make yourself look like more of a fool than you already have by your lack of civility.

Can we unofficially adopt these intellectual rights as our standard on Free Republic? They work well whether disagreeing with the Holy Father or with other FReepers.

Shalom.

16 posted on 04/23/2002 9:13:30 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: Askel5
Compliance Programs and Peer Group Collectives,...

To "manage" the symptoms of the pathology with procedural solutions is to normalise it as a regrettable but necessary cost of doing business.

17 posted on 04/23/2002 9:16:58 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
It's Corporate Governance, comrade, and it will be every bit as effective -- particularly if Outsourced -- as it's been in the "private sector".
18 posted on 04/23/2002 9:18:10 AM PDT by Askel5
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"People need to know that there is no place in the priesthood and religious life for those who would harm the young. They must know that Bishops and priests are totally committed to the fullness of Catholic truth on matters of sexual morality, a truth as essential to the renewal of the priesthood and the episcopate as it is to the renewal of marriage and family life."
I love that part.
Thanks for posting it.
19 posted on 04/23/2002 9:29:02 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: Vesuvius
...these Cardinals are so corrupt...

You know it isn't true.
With this bigoted attitude nothing will EVER give you peace.
If you cannot trust anyone in this world, then trust the Holy Spirit and His guiding Wisdom for the Church.

20 posted on 04/23/2002 9:42:33 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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