Summary of Great French Surrenders

Undergraduate Historian ^ | R.McChristian

[punishingone]

Great French surrenders throughout History.

[July 4th]

Yes, there are a lot of French in Wisconsin, but they tend to get beat up a lot by the Irish.

And the Germans conquered Milwaukee a long time ago.

[NovemberCharlie]

Great French Surrender:

1756, Fort Necessity. Of course, they weren't the ones surrendering; that fell to the man they beat, a colonial by the name of George Washington.

[Castlebar]

France vs. Europe - War of Spanish Succession 1648 A.D. (France tries to fight rest of Europe over Spain and looses to Frederick William of Germany)

Punishing One, evidently the subject of history has kicked YOUR ass. The war that ended in 1648 was the 30 years war, or rather the final phase of the 30 years war, in which the French Bourbons under Louis XIV completeley defeated the Hapsburgs, which was solidified at the truce of Westphalia.

The War of the Spanish Successsion ended (Treaty of Utrecht 1713) with France getting EXACTLY what they wanted (an obedient Bourbon dynasty in Spain) and all of France's erstwhile allies getting screwed.

[HP8753]

Their last great achievement was the invention of french toast.

When were french fries developed?? ;-)

[NovemberCharlie]

The War of the Spanish Successsion ended (Treaty of Utrecht 1713) with France getting EXACTLY what they wanted (an obedient Bourbon dynasty in Spain) and all of France's erstwhile allies getting screwed.

The French didn't get EXACTLY waht they wanted. Ideally, they wanted to be the Bourbon dynasty in Spain.

[Angelique]

B: What's wrong with Kraft cheese slices?

LOL Such cuisine. Pastuerized slices versus sharp cheddar, roquerfert, swiss, and limburger.

[clamper1797]

No surrender document was signed, but few doubt the rights we've slowly been surrendering to the government (and snail darters, and spotted owls...) in the names of "security" and "the environment."

So what does that have to do with whether we "lost" the Vietnam War or just pulled out of it ?

[BlueLancer]

And yet, just shortly after French "vistory" at the Battle of the Virginia Capes, DeGrasse got his a$$ handed to him in a crushing defeat at the Battle of the Saintes by the same Admiral Hood and Admiral Rodney ... because they had the guts to ignore the Fighting Instructions and attack the French fleet in a squadron by squadron general melee.

The French are not .. and have not been for the last 150 or so years .. friends of the United States. And, before you go off half-cocked about "allies" during two world wars, they weren't so much our allies as the enemy of our enemies. And they were absolutely no help during the Cold War when DeGaulle threw the US/NATO forces out of France.

We should have dug up all of our WWI and WWII dead from the French military cemetaries and returned them to our soil ... why should we have the French continue to spit on their graves?

[Tribune7]

LOL Such cuisine. Pastuerized slices versus sharp cheddar, roquerfert, swiss, and limburger.

Do you have any idea how impractical it is to slice sharp cheddar while driving on an Interstate?:-)

[ezo4]

Do they have a lot of French in Wisconsin? I know they like chesse and are very liberal. Sounds like Frenchmen. Nuke'em!

my family lives in WI. They are all repulicans and decent people. Your comment is stupid

[ezo4]

Also If it wasnt for the french way back in the day we might not have beaten the English for our independence. Read the history books or watch the patriot

[Arioch7]

Tonight, in the BOston area, there is a documentary of Napolean. it is part two, "Mastering Luck,".

It is on channel 44 public TV in the Mass area. It starts at Nine o'clock.

[Arioch7]

Description...

"Napoleon Mastering Luck 60 min. “Mastering Luck” (Part 2 of four) follows Napoleon from the Italian Alps to Egypt and back to Paris---and destiny---between 1796 and 1804. “The revolution is over. I am the revolution,” Napoleon declared upon naming himself First Consul after his 1799 coup. “My power depends on my glory, and my glory depends on my victories,” he said after defeating the Austrians (again) a year later. But Napoleon was more than a warrior; he was also a splendid administrator---if no democrat. “He believed in government for the people,” says historian Owen Connelly, “but not of the people.” David McCullough narrates. "

Enjoy.

[ezo4]

I do have to ad that the French have been lame for the last 150 plus years. And the way they treat us now is bad. But at one time they were our allies and saved our a$$

It will be interesting to watch the relationship with the former soviet union. I see that as getting better. And I wonder what will happen with them and us 50 years from now.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...France openly declared war on Great Britain and rendered invaluable aid to the American cause thereafter. The final military showdown at Yorktown, for example, was achieved with the help of a French army and a French navy which prevented the British from supplying or evacuating their soldiers....

http://oneida-nation.net/1777.html

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...virulently anti-American, unwashed, and deserving of the sobriquet of "cheese-eating surrender monkeys"....

It's not 'virulently anti-American' to prefer ones own culture, Lancer.

But don't let that technicality get in the way of your xenophobic rant, okay?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...the French are not .. and have not been for the last 150 or so years .. friends of the United States. And, before you go off half-cocked about "allies" during two world wars, they weren't so much our allies as the enemy of our enemies...

"...on the other hand, the Battle of Verdun crowned the French with victory and prestige. The French spirit, although strained at times, rebounded in strength as expressed in their rallying cry "On ne passe pas" (They shall not pass).

The French, not well prepared, pressed back to a point less than three kilometers from the city of Verdun by an incredible leviathan, a war-machine unprecedented in history either in size or organization, must be envied for their fantastic will to resist under the most terrifying and enervating conditions. They poured sixty-six divisions into the battle. Three hundred-seventeen thousand were killed or died there-23% of the total French losses for the entire war. They fired twelve million artillery shells during the eighteen months of fighting, an average of more than twenty-two thousand each day."

http://www.vahs.org/wwi/chap06.htm

[luvbach1]

Lost Vietnam beacause we (LBJ/NCNamara) didn't try to win it

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..many Americans gave their lives for the liberation of France, now the French pi$$ on their graves....

That's a lie.