Ukrainian Anti-Stealth Radar Sold to Iraq Discovered in Ethiopia (Saddam paid $100 mil for 3 units)

BBC Radio and Kiev Newspaper 'Zerkalo nedeli' (Mirror of the Week) VIA Pravda. Ru Newswire ^ | April 22, 2002 | San Francisco Terrorist Grand Jury Investigation

[codebreaker]

(Russian article with very confusing translation)

It basically details the San Francisco Grand Jury trial involving the President of Ukraine going on right now regarding the sale of anti-stealth radar to Iraq. (through Ethopia)

BBC reports that one of the batteries has been found in Ethopia with serial number attached, Russian factories quoted by Kiev paper say they didn't give it to Iraq but the newspaper also reveals Saddam paid 100 million for 3 anti stealth batteries worth about 15 million.(shipped to a country which has never needed to be protected against a Stealth Bomber)

Grand Jury in California may bring criminal charges on the Ukranian president before this thing is over.

[codebreaker]

Also see..James Baker Quietly Lobbies India

[Tennessee_Bob]

We've done the same thing at the school observatory with a meteor detector. Set up an antenna (I forgot what type, it's not your everyday antenna though), aim it toward an emission source (we use a high-strength radio station in Nashville about 180 miles away) and wait. If a meteor passes between the source and reciever, you'll get a signal change because of the change in the ions in the atmosphere (according to the instructor). Same thing happens when an aircraft passes between the source and the receiver.

[dennisw]

So China supplied some passive radar to the Serbs for a field test on our stealth aircraft?

[Hard Case]

Pretty nifty info. Thanks for the link.

[dennisw]

Thanks for the explanation. No pinging by a paasive radar setup.

[DoughtyOne]

Damn, I thought that was passive/agressive radar. Now I'm all confused.

[Poohbah]

Simple. The B-2 doesn't use its own sensors to locate its targets. It uses data from off-board sensors.

[ecomcon]

Huh. You said "No pinging." :^)

[kezekiel]

Saddam paid 100 million for 3 anti stealth batteries worth about 15 million

See, we need to end sanctions so that he has another $100 million to feed all the starving babies in Iraq.

[kezekiel]

Remember when the Yugoslavs shot down one of our F-117's and a few days later we bombed China's embassy? Do you REALLY think we didn't know China's embassy was there?

Yes, I REALLY do. They used old maps, it's a simple as that.

It's funny... sometimes the same mentality that says "military intelligence is an oxymoron" one moment implies that the government is omniscient the next. Here's the truth: we have very smart people in our givernment with the best technology, and they still are capable of making stupid mistakes.

[white_wolf]

Right on. Stealth planes do not use active radar because it would give away their positions. This is why most (all?) of their munitions are LASER guided.

[kezekiel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the bigger danger from passive radar that the radar *itself* is stealthy--rendering it immune to radar-seeking missles?

[Poohbah]

Guess again. Their munitions are usually GPS-guided, as even a laser is detectable.

[Spruce]

That's what I was assuming.
Besides wouldn't a system like this be very vulnerable to Wild-weasel jamming/overloading?

[null and void]

Always a pleasure dealing with FReepers, as a group we know damm near everything! Thanks!

[ContentiousObjector]

Saddam has lots of money, Iraq just can't buy anything with it because of the embargo

[michigander]

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US fears Iraq radar can see stealth plane
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**U.S. May Institute Criminal Proceedings Against Ukranian President** (Stealth Radar Sales to Iraq)

[Straight Vermonter]

Its important to understand that this technology works best against out oldest stealth technology which was based on faceting. The newer technology incorporated into the Raptor for example is much less vulnerable.

[Paleo Conservative]

But if you have a radar station that does not emit, but instead listens to the microwave emissions of other things (like cell-phone towers), and something comes along that disturbs or changes the pattern of what you're receiving, by aborbing or re-directing some of the energy, then you have him.

I guess that means we'll just have to knock out all of their telcommunications infrastructure first.

[Askel5]

Those pesky Ukrainians again ... didn't the sanctions teach them anything?

(Give them my love ... and a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue ... =)