Posted on 04/22/2002 4:40:48 AM PDT by kattracks
Sounds like you have been richly blessed with a wonderful wife and daughter.
Those Arizona allergies are really getting to me.
Whether or not she's charming, and whether or not your dad approves of her has no bearing on the fact that what you're doing is immoral.
Maybe you have no interest in morality. And maybe you're not religious, but you may be interested in some simple facts. First of all, couples who co-habitate before marriage are far more likely to break up.
The issue is TRUST. In the many cohabitting arrangements that I've seen, most of the time the woman waits around hoping to get married someday. Then after many years either the man dumps her or the woman decides to move out preemptorally.
After this breakup, both parties are far more wary of jumping into relationships. This first break-up paves the way for a lifetime of broken relationships.
I've seen it as have many others here, I'm sure. Far better to be a MAN and get all of your cards on the table now.
Not 'bad', just immoral and foolish. Unlike liberals, most conservatives hold their moral beliefs as important as their political beliefs. Morality aside, shacking up with a woman is simply playing at marriage and committment and although it can lead to marriage it can also lead to a brief marriage and an inability to trust and commit to a real relationship down the road. Your loss.
As the article in question states, the liberal feminists helped make this situation, where otherwise decent young women would shack up with otherwise decent young men, play house and act all grown-up, only to split when it became boring or problems arose, which is, sadly, what will probably happen to you.
The women believe this is normal and 'liberating' and the men simply take what's offered by the women; free sex with no need to commit to anything. A boon for guys, a losing deal for women, and they still believe this kind of bahavior is 'liberating'. Foolish. Your father's agreement with this shack-up situation you've gotten into is also pathetic but, again, rather typical of many parents who still believe that 'getting some' is the mark of a son's manhood and 'getting some' with no committment on the man's part, even better. Wrong and misguided.
As I stated, FR members may share your conservative political views but feel bad that you use a foolish, misguided girl for your pleasure and see this as something to be proud of and brag about. Having sex doesn't make you a man. Being a committed husband and (eventually) father does. When you grow up you'll (hopefully) learn the difference.
Yeah, Fonz was okay in character. Henry is very liberal, extreme left-wing on just about every issue, i.e., typical Hollyweird type. He had a very short-lived TV comedy take-off on Rushski's show back in '94 (Monty). It was an utter failure, a total stinkbomb.
Seriously, though, I have no reason to wish you ill in your relationship. I hope it works out. I tried such a lifestyle briefly back in the early '70s and found it lacking. There's more to building a life with someone than cooking, cleaning, and hitting the sack. Having a lifetime relationship with my spouse and raising a family is much more fulfilling, and challenging.
And I'm sure you know this how? Perhaps you should go down to the local abortion clinic and watch all the nice, middle class NON-crack whores get driven in by their mamas and boyfriends.
This might be of some concerned to some of the women, but typically a guy like weikel looks at this as a PLUS, not a negative. He sees it as a free pass on to the next shack-up honey.
Using your juvenile logic, all women who have ever been pregnant are crack whores. Sounds like you know a whole heck of a lot of crack whores. Your Katie Holmes sounds like a Crack Whore in training. I am sure her parents are so proud that she is a shack up.
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