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1 posted on 04/22/2002 2:43:14 AM PDT by kattracks
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The best article I've read yet!

There is only one thing he neglects to say. The percentage of priests that have committed sexual abuse, which he states as 3%, may be accurate as far as pedophilia and ephebophilia are concerned. But to be more accurate in assessing this problem, one needs to equate things to the overall homosexual population in the priesthood, which is estimated to be anywhere from 20 to 40% of total priests. The Msgr. blamed "American society for being "very protective" of homosexuality." This in turn has given "closet space" to homosexuals in seminaries and in diocese and orders.

He said, "Homosexuality became in the American exchange of views a protected area," ... "And unfortunately ... homosexual students were allowed to pass through seminaries. Grave mistake. Not because homosexuals in anyway tend to criminality, but because it is a disorder." IMO, it is more than a grave mistake. Because so many homosexual priests are active; we now have very influential clergy in chanceries and orders and seminaries protecting, or in the least remaining silent about, ALL of the homosexuals including, unfortunately, those who would abuse children.

147 posted on 04/22/2002 8:37:11 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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Some parishioners in the packed pews shifted uneasily, others nodded in agreement and a few walked out. But Clark continued, arguing that it was a "grave mistake" to allow gays in the priesthood. He blamed American society for being "very protective" of homosexuality.

Excellent!!! Wonderful! Praise God...now the Church needs to get this message out to every pulpit in the country and Priests who don't want to say it can leave and those in the pews who don't want to hear it can leave! Good Riddance to them. Thanks be to God for sending a Priest brave enough to speak this very unpopular truth from the most influential pulpit in the Catholic Church in America.

153 posted on 04/22/2002 8:43:59 AM PDT by pgkdan
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Outrage to this priest's message rang loud and far throughout the media. "Free Barabas" they cried...
155 posted on 04/22/2002 8:46:05 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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It's about time. In addition to the degradation our entertainment has brought to this society, I wish the Msgr. had mentioned abortion as a symbol of our declining morality. Perhaps he did, and this article didn't mention it. It's certainly right up there on the list.
160 posted on 04/22/2002 8:58:20 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Bump for Edward Cardinal Egan.
167 posted on 04/22/2002 9:12:51 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Orual; aculeus
In a 15-minute homily from the most prominent Roman Catholic pulpit in the city, Msgr. Eugene Clark labeled the United States "probably the most immoral country" in the Western hemisphere.

A bitter blow to Brazil.

179 posted on 04/22/2002 9:31:27 AM PDT by dighton
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Strangely, this meeting is what the media is abuzz about, yet FR moderators pull the "breaking news" designation from this article when it is the only infor that has come staight from Rome.

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185 posted on 04/22/2002 9:39:06 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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Bump
188 posted on 04/22/2002 9:55:14 AM PDT by EdReform
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GOD BLESS MONSIGNOR CLARK!!!

I encourage Freepers to contact Msgr. Clark and the NYC Archdiocese expressing thanks for his courageous, encouraging words. You can guess that his persecuation by the Gaystapo has already begun.

Archdiocese of New York
1011 First Avenue
New York NY 10022-4134
Phone: 212-371-1000

Saint Patrick's Cathedral
14 East 51st Street
New York NY 10022
212-753-2261

If anyone has any fax or email addresses, please post.
221 posted on 04/22/2002 11:01:15 AM PDT by Antoninus
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"I left because I realized I have no desire to be connected with the institution of the Catholic Church,"

Then why did she walk in there?

Cheer up. The homilist was an old fogey (sarcasm).

237 posted on 04/22/2002 11:54:26 AM PDT by Aliska
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Marianne Duddy, executive director of Dignity/USA, the nation's largest organization of gay Catholics, called Clark's comments linking the sex scandal with homosexuality "incredibly horrifying and irresponsible."

Not untruthful, Ms. Duddy? And if it is not untruthful, how is that at all horrifying and irresponsible? Isn't supression of the truth the greatest horror and irresponsibility imaginable?

Tell me, Ms. Duddy, how many of these episodes of sexual molestation were between Priests and girls? Hmmmmmmm?

Shalom.

252 posted on 04/22/2002 1:09:35 PM PDT by ArGee
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Hard to argue with the truth unless--YOUR A LIAR!
283 posted on 04/22/2002 2:28:37 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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The man is heroic. I hope he sticks to his guns and isn't pushed into retracting his statements.
289 posted on 04/22/2002 2:41:49 PM PDT by Hamza01
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Go get 'em Monsigor! About time somebody started telling it like it is instead of these watered down homilies. We need someone to make a whip of cords and start driving all the monsters out.
292 posted on 04/22/2002 2:44:57 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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Faggots are a great reason to cut funding for AIDS research. Let natural selection work!
298 posted on 04/22/2002 2:54:06 PM PDT by Exnihilo
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Go Msgr. Clark! Way to tell the truth.
300 posted on 04/22/2002 3:03:25 PM PDT by tiki
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amen
307 posted on 04/22/2002 3:15:41 PM PDT by WriteOn
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Hooray! I whole heartedly agree. It's about time someone stood up to the liberal politically correct group and spoke the truth. The liberal Emperor has no clothes.
395 posted on 04/25/2002 1:36:24 PM PDT by Eva
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Clark has the guts to stand up and speak truth.
It's about time somebody made people "shift uneasily" in their pews.

If there were more people like Clark around, the Catholic Church would not have any of their parishoners voting for scumbags like Clinton and the rest of the scumbag liberals. I fear it may be too late, though. One lone voice is not enough.

405 posted on 05/02/2002 4:35:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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