If you defend those who would do this to my countrymen, you are my mortal enemy.
Posted on 04/21/2002 10:28:29 AM PDT by RWCon
It doesn't suprise me that you would lie about me (and not even have the guts to address the post to me) rather than answer the questions about Jenin aerial pictures or the lack of any evidence of your alleged "massacre".
However, NOWHERE did I claim you read "Stormfront".
Please take the time to take back that comment, and then address the previous unanswered questions.
Laz, I have been asking JT for days to tell us exactly where the evidence for this "massacre" is, and for that I get called a nazi.
The Sinai was conquered in a war. For good or bad that is usually how throughout history land changes hands.
And of course you missed the point of the post. The other poster was accusing Israel of holding on to conquered land due to greed. I merely pointed out that if that were true, they would have kept the Sinai, which was the most (monetarily) valuable piece of land they had.
Sort of reminds me of the Y2K days when JT was a raving lunatic.
They wanted them out of there for the same reason the US wanted them out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, etc all the way back to WWII. Reporters (especially TV reporters) are sensationalist eggagerators who are paid to create emotional stories that earn ratings and dollars at home. They also have a firm record of saving their harshest criticism for the side that is most democratic and open (if you criticize the bad guys---you'll lose "access," THE cardinal sin.
Thanks for living up to your reputation.
I don't know what you do, nor do I care.
Dollars to donuts I make a heck of a lot more money than you do and it isn't sitting on ass hassling stupid people out of their money
Still eating that Spam and using the TP from 2000?
You must be, it's rotting your brain from which end, nobody knows.
If you defend those who would do this to my countrymen, you are my mortal enemy.
they will slaughter you in a heartbeat, and trill afterwards.
That is simply not true. They have never lived side by side with even themselves peacfully without a Brutal dictator King Sultan etc where they had no self determination whatsoever.
Destabiliztion in Palestine per se came with Zionism and the push for a Jewish state.
There was a great deal of destablization before WWII because the British weren't repressive enouph. The destablization after the UN tried to create a Jewish state in Palestine was the result of a power vacume created by the British backing off even more and eventually leaving. There was no one powerfull enouph that was willingto replace them.
I agree that the most of the anger was a result of the influx of Jews but they would have fought each other anyway if they hadn't had the Jews to fight until a dictator or king took over.
Instead of finally getting a Palestinian State in all of Palestine like they wanted and had never had before They refused because they thought that they could take it by force. It was thier choice. They screwed up. They can be pissed about it but not at us. It's not our fault. We didn't even arm the Jews then. The Soviets did.
They were hoping that the Jews would choose communism and they knew that they couldn't deal with the Palestinians. After the Jews chose democracy we started suporting them openly and rightfully so.
What you blame on the Arab press, therefore, I would blame on the inevitable clash that comes when one group arrives from outside to dominate another already there.
I don't blame all of the anger on the Arab press. They just make it much worse and make resolution impossible by lieing inceasently.
The Zionists did not come to blend in or get along. They came to take over and build a state.
Agreed
The hate is the effect of, not the cause of, what is actually experienced on the ground
Part of the hate is created by what is experienced on the ground but a big part of it , if not most of it , is the result brainwashing from birth from the constent barrage of lies that they are force fed their whole lives. Sure they have a right to be pissed but much of their anger comes from false propaganda and much of it is missplaced because of all of the false propaganda.
first by the expulsion in '48
You've got to be kidding. There was no expulsion in '48.
The Most of the Palestinians left because of the false propaganda by the Arab press at the time because they had lost the war , against all odds , that they started.
The Arab press was trying to gain Western sympathy by making up stories of Jews murdering and gang raping Palestinians. Like they're doing now. The Palestinians didn't know that the stories were almost entirely fabricated.
In one town a couple of dozen men were executed by Jewish civilians. That was it. Then the Arab press scared the sh** out of the Palestinian population by saying that Palestinians were being mass murdered and gang raped. So , most of the Palestinians packed up and left , of their own free will ,trying to escape attrocities that weren't happening. Then they were told by the new Jewish State that most of them wouldn't be allowed to come back to their homes. They had to either resettle in Jordan or somewhere in Isreal of Isrealis choosing. That's a good reason to be pissed but their anger is largely missplaced.
after WWII we took not a square inch of land and got out as soon as possible.
We got bases all over to keep it from happening again and to fight the expansion of the Soviet Union. We gained invaluable strategic territory. We have bases in Saudi Arabia but we are such pussies we let the Saudis tell us when we can and can't use them. Big mistake.
The Isrealis have demostrated over and over again that they are willing to trade land for peace , even very strategically and economically important land. The only thing that the Palestinians will trade of peace are dead Jews.
However, I was expecting to see a more substantive rebuttal from you. Perhaps you might rise to the challenge later on?
For some time now I'v been ending my reading of articles when I reach statements like the above. They show that the author has no intent of telling the truth, and are usually a sign of either the AP or a mainstream UK paper.
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