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George Lucas to TIME: "All democracies turn into dictatorships..."
TIME Magazine via TheForce.net ^ | April 21, 2002

Posted on 04/21/2002 7:46:09 AM PDT by Darth Sidious

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To: tet68
You are right. The longest single running stable government in the world is the ours. Lucas should stick to movies.
101 posted on 04/21/2002 4:38:39 PM PDT by aimlow
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To: f.Christian
The evil--Britney Spears/Washu--spearmint!
Dwoemer Cthulu demonublicrats!
Balrog ice-cream palaces (pot/hippy) blue?
102 posted on 04/21/2002 4:46:41 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: marajade
You know, as an averaged sized 29-year-old stocky male, I was hoping Temura Morrison would be the big sex symbol for the ladies. Oh, well, a guy can dream, can't he?
107 posted on 04/21/2002 5:19:10 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
Only fan boys like JF and BF...
110 posted on 04/21/2002 6:24:56 PM PDT by marajade
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To: alien
"Except, according to this article he happens to have a clue how dictatorships come about. He knows dictators are elected."

And he's wrong about that, too. Julius Caesar was "elected" to the dictatorship only after marching his legions across the Rubicon and occupying Rome. Cromwell became "Lord Protector" only after taking up arms not merely against King Charles but against Parliament as well. Napoleon rose to power only after leading the Brumaire coup d'etat. Hitler was not elected to the chancellorship, he was appointed to it, and didn't have dictatorial power until after conducting a rigged election in March 1933. The common thread is that dictators, after seizing power by force of arms, generally try to legitimize themselves with elections. Such elections, invariably "monitored" by thugs from the dictator's faction, are hardly examples of democracy in action.

Pretending that George Bush and Adolf Hitler are cut from the same cloth—which is certainly Lucas' and TIME's subtext here, and presumably "Darth"'s as well—is not merely morally bankrupt but historically ignorant. Come talk to me after Trent Lott guns down Daschle, after Marc Rocicot burns down the Capitol building; then I'll acknowledge that our Republic is about to "become" a dictatorship.

111 posted on 04/21/2002 6:34:56 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: alien
Re: the cameras, thanks :-) Well, he can't put EVERYTHING about history into a series of movies. But he already had an amazing amount of research under his belt when he worked on the first Star Wars movie. Even without the much-touted "Hero With A Thousand Faces" stuff, Lucas's tale had plenty backing it up.
112 posted on 04/21/2002 7:53:38 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
For you attention
113 posted on 04/22/2002 8:23:59 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: semper_libertas; first_salute; snopercod
Someday they will grow up and take a principled stand against BOTH crime syndicates and demand a return to the Constitution.

But it may not be this generation.

Semper,
Not the next generation either should we fail to reach our own.

Though I may not feel your precise frustration, I feel a share of it. You see corruption and power glomming clearly enough. But do you see to what purpose?

Those whom you wish to reach seem beyond reach don't they? One man foresaw this predicament in 1943.

The men you wish to reach have been lessened. In being denied the lessons which teach us to blend thought and feeling, they are no longer men seeking out the civilizing influences. In its stead they are nurtured in cold logic and visceral instinct and told to let it lead them wherever it takes them. Leave the blending to the professionals. Trust in the professionals.

Without expanding the quotes further, let me add the following.
From my understanding of Lewis, I think he says to you "somehow your conditioning to willingly accept contemporary mores didn't take, and now you feel isolated."

Even though your concerns are legitimate, you meet indifference. Lewis foresaw that circumstance too. He said it was inevitable. The majority have been conditioned to an "open mind," and, in so doing, have had their allegiance turned from our most important traditions, and their minds closed to the sacrifices and understanding from which the traditions were rendered. For those traditions you are grateful. To those traditions you still feel obligated. (As does first_salute, hence his inclusion above).

It's my observation that we've largely been conditioned by cynics (media and adversarial legal system) to, in the least, be skeptical about most everything, and particularly distrustful of our fellows. And if we recall DeTocqueville, "The despot rather cares less that you love him than that you are distrustful of your fellows," you've gotta ask the question why are we being misled so? Why is the accumulation of so much power so important for a few people?

So again, I ask you to consider in depth "To what end this power seeking?"

Lewis also answered that in part. However, he lacked the experience of his predictions. We've witnessed those experiences and so I think we can see the answer more clearly. As you know, my reading of what is that intended end is as grim as it gets.

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* I think the "we" Lewis refers directly to is the educational establishment of which he was a part. However, he most certainly would mean to implicate society at large.

114 posted on 04/22/2002 10:27:17 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: semper_libertas
WOW!!! My serious compliments on Post #31. You nailed it.
115 posted on 04/22/2002 10:35:31 AM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Mak90kidoflincolnNE
I've no idea. I'm only now back on FR after a day or so away from FR. What in the world happened?
117 posted on 04/22/2002 11:25:00 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: semper_libertas
So I may categorize your theory as one that is all greed driven? You will allow no room for theory that is fear driven (other than that simple complement to greed, the fear of not being king)?
119 posted on 04/22/2002 2:37:35 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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