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Need Help Buying Gun
4-17-02 | PaulJ

Posted on 04/17/2002 1:32:29 PM PDT by PaulJ

My fellow Freepers have always been able to help me and I need your help again.
I have an 11 year old who is in the Boy Scouts and had his first experience with target shooting (air rifle)about 3 years ago. Two years ago we bought him his own air rifle and he saved up and bought a CO2 pistol.He loves it and seems to be a natural and is a great shot. I am now considering buying him a 22 but know nothing about them. I looked around the internet but couldn't find any helpful information.
I have never owned a gun but think it would be a great father & son thing to get into. He has only done target shooting but has shown some interest in hunting small game.
Here's where I need your help. What should I look for in a rifle? How much should I plan on spending? Are there any good web sites that are informative? What else do I need to know?
Any information you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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1 posted on 04/17/2002 1:32:29 PM PDT by PaulJ
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I have a boy the same age, and he loves my Ruger 10/22. Lightweight and easy to shoot. Fired thousands of rounds in mine without a hitch.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/rfrimfire_auto.html

Ignore the prices on the website, you can get one at Wal-Mart for about $150.

2 posted on 04/17/2002 1:41:25 PM PDT by Pern
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I'll chime in- I would suggest a single shot, bolt action .22. Ruger, Marlin, Winchester are all good brands, don't know if any particular one makes a single shot.

advantage of a single shot is it teaches concentration, and lends itself to focusing on each shot. Wait until you both have some experience before going to a semi-auto and hsoing down the tin cans. Also, make sure and get some training in gun safety from an NRA certified trainer.

have fun!

3 posted on 04/17/2002 1:41:59 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: PaulJ
Various gun stores in your locale, may have on hand, a fine, used bolt action Marlin; such rifles were the standard at summer camp, "way back when."
4 posted on 04/17/2002 1:44:11 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: fourdeuce82d
I'll chime in- I would suggest a single shot, bolt action .22. Ruger, Marlin, Winchester are all good brands, don't know if any particular one makes a single shot.

Well, I like you're idea of a single shot for the concentration aspect over a semi-auto, but I would still make it a repeater. My first .22 was a Marlin lever action model for .22 short/long.

You still get the concentration aspect of a single shot, but not the hassels of having to reload all the time. Such a rifle is longer than the Ruger 10/22 of which I also have one, and a little heavier. Still, it was a good first firearm for me.

5 posted on 04/17/2002 1:48:44 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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www.ruger-firearms.com or www.marlinfirearms.com are good sites for information. I still have a Mossberg 342K bought 44 years ago - my first rifle. I don't believe Mossberg is in that market anymore. A shame.
6 posted on 04/17/2002 1:54:50 PM PDT by sharpaxe
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To: fourdeuce82d
Dittos on the single shot bolt action and the NRA training. Shooting with a single shot will teach the shooter to make the first shot count.

I remember many times of going out to the junkyard to shoot rats. I killed many more rats with my single shot than I ever did with my semi automatic. It's all about the discipline of picking your shot carefully to make it count.

Speaking of first rifles, my 4 month old daughter already has her first rifle in the safe at home, a single shot Remington 22.

Semper Fi!

7 posted on 04/17/2002 2:00:44 PM PDT by dd5339
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There was a good thread about this back in December. It started as a posting of a (barf) anti-gun piece, but then it turned into a shopping list for junior's .22!

Gunmakers Urge That Children Get Guns For Christmas

8 posted on 04/17/2002 2:01:01 PM PDT by the
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A Model 52 Winchester, either in the standard light barrel, or a match version with a heavier barrel. Bolt action, has to be cocked by a pull-out plunger for every shot.

Many a charging rat fell, stopped in the very nick as they attacked, with their blood-chilling squeals, as they burst out of the undergrowth...

9 posted on 04/17/2002 2:07:53 PM PDT by jonascord
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PJ, You are right it is a very good Father/Son activity and a good Father/Daughter activity and an all around great family activity. My wife and our three children and I shoot together often.

We got our youngest a Keystone Cricket single shot when he was six. It is a small framed .22 and still fits him at nine years old (a big nine). The Ruger 10/22 is the best .22 for the money, and if the reach to the trigger is too long you can find a youth sized, after-market stock for it in the Shotgun News (a periodical which can be picked up at your local WalMart or gun shop).

The only disadvantage that I would see with starting your son or any child off with 10/22 is that it is a semiauto. I like the disciplined procedure that a single-shot forces a kid to go through.

Just my two centavos on the subject. I hope you find a good deal on a firearm and that you and your son enjoy many hours of safe shooting.

10 posted on 04/17/2002 2:09:39 PM PDT by ExpatGator
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To: PaulJ; fourdeuce82d; AFreeBird
...I would suggest a single shot, bolt action .22. Ruger, Marlin, Winchester are all good brands,...

I'm with these guys - the discipline of a single shot is very important to learn as young as possible. Otherwise a young shooter gets the idea that "If I miss the first shot - no big deal, I've got plenty more."

He'll "grow into" a semi-auto soon enough!

11 posted on 04/17/2002 2:09:46 PM PDT by facedown
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I agree with several of the responders who recommended the Ruger 10/22. I bought one thirty years ago and have fired more than 10,000 rounds through it without a problem. I taught both of my children to shoot using it.

You can load one round at a time and use it like a single shot if you want or load it with 10 rounds and fire it semi-auto.

12 posted on 04/17/2002 2:13:12 PM PDT by mbynack
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Here is an old thred from back in '99. A lot of great information. Some of it may not pertain to your need, but still a good read.

So You Want To Buy A Gun

13 posted on 04/17/2002 2:15:33 PM PDT by Lanman
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What the heck, I'll add my 2 cents also.

The Ruger 10-22 is tough to beat and will be something he'll never outgrow. Used bolt action .22's about and are cheap.

Also, consider a handgun in .22 as well. The Ruger Mark II is another reasonably priced .22 that will last a lifetime. With either of the two, buy extra magazines so that when you go shooting someone can be loading while waiting their turn to shoot. I've got 4 mags for the 10-22 and 5 for the Mark II and that keeps everyone occupied when we go out shooting.

This may be one of the few threads where people aren't shouting out recommendations for Kimbers.

14 posted on 04/17/2002 2:19:19 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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Why play games?

Get him a cannon.

Tight budget? Try a bazooka.

15 posted on 04/17/2002 2:23:39 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: Pern
Gotta agree, a Ruger 10/22 makes an excellent first rifle.
16 posted on 04/17/2002 2:26:49 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: PaulJ
Put me in the Ruger 10/22 crowd. Inexpensive, high quality, FUN, durable.....could go on all day. Best $150.00 I have ever invested in a firearm.
17 posted on 04/17/2002 2:27:49 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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P.S. Many stores offer a free 4x scope when buying a Ruger 10/22! About $150-$200 total.
18 posted on 04/17/2002 2:28:27 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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My suggestion....

A bolt action, either single shot or repeater (I personally like a repeater, but my first was a single shot). Depending on the size of the kid, you should consider a "youth" model. If the kid is large for his age, then a standard model would be logical.

Would be a good starter rifle. I have developed an affection for Savage rifles. My most recent aquisition is a model 93 in .22 Magnum. The thing shoots so well, I really want a .22 LR.

Save the Ruger 10/22 for after you both have gained experience. Although a reliable (and fun to customize) gun, it is not for beginners.......

Also, big dittos for the safety course (NRA does some really great courses).

19 posted on 04/17/2002 2:28:36 PM PDT by TheBattman
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Ditto the Ruger 10/22. Last I checked it was around $159.99 at WalMart.
20 posted on 04/17/2002 2:29:57 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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