[john in missouri]

I don't think we'll ever see another ballot initiative like Prop B. We must find other means of getting the right to carry recognized.

[Rifleman]

In any case, we cannot win a new prop B because the Deamoncrat vote mechanics in St Louis will always steal a close vote. I would also point out that no Republican ever wins a close election where the Deamoncrats control the voting process.

[Southbound]

John, I couldn't agree more......Missouri needs a change. BTW. our present MO Constitution (of which I have a copy in my hand) dates from 1945, not 1875. True, the section you quote is in the present one, and the source was the Const. of 1875, but that just illustrates why we need a change so much. Laz, the one (maybe) faint bright spot here is that Missouri is one of the states that allows amending its Constitution by initiative petition, without a Constitutional Convention. That's how we got Prop. B a year or so back (a CCW ballot issue that was narrowly defeated by the denizens of St. Louis & Kansas City). Who knows, though, perhaps if it was worded a little better, or maybe the timing might be better now.......