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Posted on 04/16/2002 9:55:16 AM PDT by john in missouri
If you believe what both the U.S. and Missouri Constitutions tell us -- that law-abiding citizens have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms in defense of their homes, persons and property -- then come join the GUN RIGHTS RALLY that will be taking place in the CAPITOL ROTUNDA in JEFFERSON CITY on WEDNESDAY STARTING AROUND 9:15 A.M.
To "bear" arms means to "carry" them (check the dictionary). But unfortunately, our RIGHTS are being DAILY DENIED by draconian Missouri laws that PROHIBIT the law-abiding from being armed for self-defense.
("But you can carry openly," someone will say. Yeah? Just try it.)
Governor Bob Holden (also known as "One-Term Bob") spends an estimated $800,000 of YOUR tax dollars every year on his ARMED bodyguard and security detail.* Then he has the GALL to tell law-abiding voters that WE have NO RIGHT to carry a concealed handgun to protect ourselves and our children, and that he will VETO any attempt on the part of our legislators to pass such a law!
We need EVERYBODY OUT to tell the governor -- and our legislators -- what we think.
And if we fail to get a RIGHT-TO-CARRY law passed in Missouri THIS YEAR, then it's time to REPLACE some of our legislators who are failing to stand up and fight for our rights (maybe we should also DUMP One-Term Bob at the earliest opportunity).
Here are some of the rally details:
Date: Wednesday morning (TOMORROW!)
Location: Capitol Rotunda, Jefferson City, MO
Time: Rally officially begins at 930. Meeting runs to 1130. Then GO BY AND SEE your representative and senator! Thank those who are supporting, and let the other ones know how you feel.
BRING YOUR WIVES AND CHILDREN. WE NEED TONS OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN THERE TO PROTEST THEIR LACK OF DEFENSE!
There are charter buses leaving from both Kansas City and St. Louis. For more info on these, as well as for rally posters, see the following web sites:
Kansas City area: http://www.wmsa.net
St. Louis area: http://www.sacmo.org
We will NEVER go away.
We DEMAND the Right To Carry for personal defense.
We want other pro gun, pro-freedom legislation passed.
We will not tolerate more gun control measures that threaten our firearms heritage.
Our Rights are NOT what's wrong with Missouri!
* Note: I don't have a hard source on the $800,000 a year. That's just what I've heard reported by one gun rights advocate here in the state. Whatever the exact figure the governor spends on armed guards, it's definitely enormous.
Citizens in 44 states “Do not fear Gun Owners who “Citizen Carry” (CC).”
In 1986 only eight (8) states allow “citizen carry” (CC) and crime was on the rise. In the year 2001, 42 states now have CC laws on the books and crime continues to drop. Researchers to the self-defense issue, has noticed crime begin dropping immediately after enactment in each state and showed up four - five years before the Brady law. Our Indiana neighbor has issued 350,000 CC permits and zero (0) has been revoked for a firearms homicide. In these states Police Chief’s are pleasantly surprised in the quality of the applicant.
There are 21 times more (est. 2,500,000) CC owners than “street” policeman (120,000) in the United States. Policemen killed 330 innocent citizens in 1996 and CC’ers (30). Statistically you are 300 times more likely to be innocently shot by a policeman than a CC owner. Sidebar: 700,000 Doctors kill by mistake 90,000 people annually in our nation. Our hearts should go out to each and every family and our heads need to be crystal clear on this issue. Also Citizen Carry citizens commit less crime that even Police officers as a statistical group.
Women are the fastest growing group of gun owners in the United States. “Dial 911 and Die” is real with 911 response times from 5 to 30 minutes. Police only stop 4% in the act violent crime. What logic would as representative suggest to a woman to “talk down” the rapist with AIDS or HIV or STD? 10 minutes is a long time. Get your watch and start talking. Do GG (Gun Grabbers) honestly think the rapist will use a condom? Women should be outraged at the GG for forcing such defenseless thinking. Did you know most rapes last from 2 to 4 hours.
Question? Why do you think, judges, probation officers, bail bondman, attorneys and social workers are given the right to CC or decide to carry illegally? If you ask they will tell you, they are dealing bad guys everyday and know the mindset of these early release felons.
Bad guys will always have guns. It is “dumb and dumber” to believe America is safer by taking away firearms from honest American Citizens or to make felons. Anti gun groups and faulty ordinances in Chicago land are doing just the opposite providing “gun free zones” for criminals to operate in.
Most all State Statues are written to protect the general public not the individual. It is the individual’s responsibility to protect themselves and their families at home and away from home.
Road Rage: It is a myth that CC owners kill cops, or citizens with Road Rage. In the United States over the last twenty years only two (2) known road rage shootings have occurred. Believe me if Road Rage shootings were a problem, the Gun Grabbers (GG’ers), would let us know. One case, after a car accident in TX, the driver begins to punch the man in the face, breaking his eye socket, nose. Profusely bleeding from the face and fearing for his life, the 65 yr old driver pulled his gun and shot the road raged driver saving his life.
· My personal thoughts: Every solid citizen who elects to “CC” carry’s a tremendous burden. This burden is to stay legal, or be charged with a felony or at least a grand jury indictment, should they ever break one of 25,000 gun laws or kill an attacking criminal. We have plenty of criminal laws to put them away for life should any CC’er turn to the dark side. · Jesus in the Bible was smart enough to cast blame on Cain for killing Abel, not blame the stone. Those who believe the “GG” fear spinners need to wake up. · One final closing thought, Christian religions and other religions teach the need to protect ones self. Jesus said in Luke 22:36 30 He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. The sword was the finest weapon outside of the home of its time, far better than rocks, clubs, and stones.
Department of Justice, FBI, CIA, statistics and facts
* Facts and Figures * (700k file)
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/gunfacts.pdf
* Facts and Figures ver3.1 *(700k file)
http://home.attbi.com/~guys/guns.html
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Other women who know how Mrs. Price was lied too by the government false statements that 911 will protect you.
* Women who defend their sons daughters and husbands *
http://www.sas-aim.org/home.htm
Bad guys don't live by the rules. Here is Mrs. Ruth Price story and I would think that you would agree she disagrees with this leftist extremist, anti-gun views. Here is Mrs. Price story. Another disarmed voice.
Mrs. Price speaks directly to the gun control extremists with a powerful message. Requires Audio setup, downloads in 30 seconds, however, well worth your wait for this message.
If you have trouble with this load, cut and paste to URL line.
http://www.geekswithguns.com/audio/911_call_no_address.ram
Next Picture from Mother's of the past, speaking to soccer moms of today.
Have we forgotten already.
Women's talk about self defense.
The best news link on the planet for self defense.
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Who needs protection? The women of our lives, and our children, the poor who have little police protection, our grandparents, and parents, our wife, and our daughters need the right to self-defense at home and on the street. 2.2 million felons in jail, 3.5 million felons on probation, and 14 million drug abusers looking for their next fix. Do you think they are living in your city? Guns save lives. Gun free zones are killing zones for criminals. Most anti gun liberals are one mugging away from conservative views.
Dail 911 and die is more than a cute saying. It is life or death.
The actual 911 call is Mrs Price voice. Take this recording to every MMM and anti gun rally in the nation. Perhaps the MMM anti guns will be the next Mrs Price.
Another Mrs Price story in Columbus OHIO -- Dialed 911 and Died.
Mrs. Turner's story. Restraining orders, Killer telling police he was going to kill her, begging for life for several minutes, nor did phone call to 911 save this woman's life.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b28997102ad.htm
What is your self defense plan when the bad guy shows up at your door?
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Even the libs at the Denver Post came out in favor of a shall issue law on the editorial page.
For a minute there I thought you meant this poster:
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Sounds like you got the new primer in, but missed the powder charge. I think I'll be there.
Heh heh... well, I'm actually rather new to these gun rights type issues, so please pardon my lack of expertise.
Before I started really researching the issues for myself, I was rather in favor of passing laws that would try to disarm the populace, like they've done in the UK, Australia & even in our northerly neighbor Canada.
I think I've got the safety rules down now, but I will have to get you to show me how to properly load this thing...
Policemen killed 330 innocent citizens in 1996 and CC’ers (30). Statistically you are 300 times more likely to be innocently shot by a policeman than a CC owner.
The source for the 330/ 30 statistic is Professor John R. Lott, Jr. in "Now That the Brady Law Is Law, You Are Not Any Safer Than Before," Philadelphia Inquirer, Feb. 1, 1994, p. A9.
This is NOT a statistic on concealed-carry permit holders, it is a statistic for all civilian gun owners in the USA! These far, far out number the CCW permit holders.
Sorry, ChicagoFarmer, that should read either:
This is good, ChicagoFarmer, but I must take very strong exception to:
or:
This is good, ChicagoFarmer, but I must take the strongest possible exception to:
(Dang. Another misfire.) 8-)
I voted for the concealed carry law a few years ago, and I hope that another will be on our ballots soon. All the best Freepers!
Here is the bottom line.
Today, at this very moment, you and I can exert our RIGHT to "bear arms" in Missouri.
IF need be, it is much easier and less costly to defend a RIGHT, than a privilege. RIGHTS are inalienable, absolute, enumerated and categorical.
This raises the probability of a victorious court battle significantly.
Privileges, on the other hand, granted through legislation, are fluid and subject to easy and numerous changes, thus lowering the probability of a victorious court battle.
You surely will run into the bogus "compelling state interest" argument, which will be the nail in the coffin to your court battle to defend a privilege.
You are still begging for a privilege from the MO legislature and you cannot exert that privilege and if you do exert the privilege before it is granted you will not be able to defend that action, constitutionally and will surely lose.
Go ahead, knock yourself out using your energy and political capital on a privilege versus a right, which is as about as stable as a foundation built on sand.
If the a conceal carry law ever does become enacted in MO, I will never apply for the privilege.
When you do, you have just registered your firearm for future confiscation.
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