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Supreme Court strikes down ban on virtual child pornography
Associated Press ^ | 4-16-02

Posted on 04/16/2002 7:32:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court struck down a congressional ban on virtual child pornography Tuesday, ruling that the First Amendment protects pornography or other sexual images that only appear to depict real children engaged in sex.

The 6-3 ruling is a victory for both pornographers and legitimate artists such as moviemakers, who argued that a broad ban on simulated child sex could make it a crime to depict a sex scene like those in the recent movies "Traffic" or "Lolita."


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childpornography; scotuslist; supremecourt
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To: Aggie Mama
I agree. Any Pixar movie will show you that technology can create some amazingly life-like images.

I've been reading computer graphic design magazines for years (my dh gets them from work) and they all agree - the aim of every digital movie studio worth its salt is to create "virtual" actors who will seem indistinguishable from live ones. The Japanese animation "Final Fantasy" was a good example of an embryonic attempt.

Eventually the visual technology will be so skilled that it will be *impossible* to distinguish between a digitally created actor and a live one. If such a distinction can't be made, then all child pornography laws will be dead letters, since there will always be "reasonable doubt" whether the children involved were real or virtual.

121 posted on 04/16/2002 8:59:00 AM PDT by ikanakattara
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To: Egg
I don't understand the connection to anything I've commented on.
122 posted on 04/16/2002 8:59:22 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Egg
These unalienable rights are endowed by our Creator, true. But what makes you think the Creator can't Himself revoke them via the hand of a tyrannical government? There are plenty of governments in the world who oppress their people and deprive them of these "unalienable" rights. When we consistently thumb our noses at our Creator's Laws, then we'll soon join the ranks of such nations.

That's how it works. If someone here does not believe that, then use your rights in an immoral way and see how long we last.

123 posted on 04/16/2002 9:00:19 AM PDT by mconder
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To: gdani
No, the three concurred in part, dissented in part

So between the three of them we have 1.5 soulless black rider.

124 posted on 04/16/2002 9:00:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Egg
But what makes you think the Creator can't Himself revoke them via the hand of a tyrannical government?

So a vengeful God begat tyranny?!?!

I guess we got the DMV for our more venial shortcomings.

125 posted on 04/16/2002 9:01:07 AM PDT by dead
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To: mconder
...sorry you don't like it. If you want to fix it get control of yourself.

There is no reason to personalize your comment. It isn't about me. I don't know what you think I should get control of.

126 posted on 04/16/2002 9:01:55 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Lazamataz
Do you ever wonder what Sandra O'Connor and Ruth Ginsberg are wearing under those black robes?
127 posted on 04/16/2002 9:02:38 AM PDT by al-andalus
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To: dead
So a vengeful God begat tyranny?!?!

He doesn't beget it, he does nothing to prevent it.

128 posted on 04/16/2002 9:02:44 AM PDT by mconder
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I am not in favor of Big Government but I think this whole thing is bunk! If a society can't say that real or imagined images of sex with children is morally wrong and illegal then what hope is there that that same society can have moral clarity (buzz phrase of the day) on any other issue? Some things are just WRONG! Clarify the law better if need be but this is going to make prosecuting real cases impossible. Adult freedom once again trumps child safety. Woohoo.
129 posted on 04/16/2002 9:03:18 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: mconder
He doesn't beget it, he does nothing to prevent it.

That’s our job.

130 posted on 04/16/2002 9:04:35 AM PDT by dead
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To: Joan912
Except that one involves real human participants and the other doesn't.
131 posted on 04/16/2002 9:05:29 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Egg
Stop focusing on the sarcasm and address the issue: Do you believe there is any legal right for people to view (fictitional) images of children engaged in sex?

As long as the Supreme Court says so, yes.

Everyone here should just stop with the insults and answer that question. Then we'll know on which side of the fence each stands.

The reason nobody wants to directly address the legal realities here is because people like you come along and accuse anyone that admits to said LEGAL realities as being nearly Satanically evil in a MORAL sense. Which is, of course, insulting BS. Morality and legality are separate issues here, period.

132 posted on 04/16/2002 9:06:05 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: mlo
...sorry you don't like it. If you want to fix it get control of yourself. There is no reason to personalize your comment. It isn't about me. I don't know what you think I should get control of.

I was just mearly suggesting the surest way I know to fix what's wrong is to control ones self. To excercise you agency justly, morrally, correctly when given the highest degree of freedom gives you the highest degree of return.

133 posted on 04/16/2002 9:07:07 AM PDT by mconder
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To: al-andalus
Do you ever wonder what Sandra O'Connor and Ruth Ginsberg are wearing under those black robes?

Only when I'm out of ipecac.

134 posted on 04/16/2002 9:07:24 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: RAT Patrol
Agreed. Somehow, I don't think preserving the rights of all of us to view virtual kiddie porn would have been the intent Ben Franklin, TJ, Adams, and all those other great guys.
135 posted on 04/16/2002 9:07:36 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: al-andalus
Gear up to see less of these...

...and more of these:


136 posted on 04/16/2002 9:08:02 AM PDT by Egg
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To: Timesink
Morality and legality are separate issues here, period

Wrongo. Spend any amount of time looking at the founding of this country and look at what they were thinking. To them, every legal question was a moral question and vice versa.

137 posted on 04/16/2002 9:10:17 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: dead
I am sure protecting virtual kiddie porn is just what our founders had in mind.

The freedom of the moral and the right of children to be safe in our society is effected by this sort of thing. To not realize the cause and effect is like saying a diabetic really can eat sugar. Libertarianism is great as long as it recognizes the forgotten side of freedom; the right to live morally. If a bunch of people are walking around with kiddie porn in their heads kids are going to get raped. Liken it to driving drunk. You are intoxicating minds who will later cause harm to other free people.

138 posted on 04/16/2002 9:11:08 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: Timesink
As long as the Supreme Court says so, yes.

So you'll never do a thing to challenge the Supreme Court--they're your ultimate arbiter of legality and illegality. You contradict yourself.

The reason nobody wants to directly address the legal realities here is because people like you come along and accuse anyone that admits to said LEGAL realities as being nearly Satanically evil in a MORAL sense. Which is, of course, insulting BS. Morality and legality are separate issues here, period.

They are intrinsically linked. If you insult the Creator who gives you the unalienable right to be free by using your 'freedoms' in a manner that utterly offends Him, then your laws will slowly take a form that cuts off such 'freedoms'. Freedom has a purpose, just as life has a purpose.

139 posted on 04/16/2002 9:13:12 AM PDT by Egg
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To: arielb
"pedophiles win again"

Yes, they do. Fake images or not, it will excite these creatures. They will get their titilation, and then go looking for the real thing.

140 posted on 04/16/2002 9:14:22 AM PDT by Don Myers
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