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HILLARY CLINTON signs LETTER to PRESIDENT BUSH
www.clinton.senate.gov ^ | April12, 2002 | Hillary Clinton

Posted on 04/15/2002 2:41:43 PM PDT by reformjoy

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To: desertcry
I agree with everything you have said on this thread. From the point of view of the arabs, what Sharon is doing is an intolerable outrage. Even if Bush is not able to make Sharon back down, there is a security advantage to not having the United States be seen as backing 100 percent of what the Israelis are doing. Not only would the arabs feel less compelled to retaliate directly against Americans for what is happening in Palestine but the degree of difficulty of gaining support for taking out Saddam will be reduced. I am not suggesting the we should abandon the Israelis, just that we should keep them at arms length.

While it may not be treason in the legal sense, it does seem disloyal for members of Congress to deliberately try to undermine the mission of the Secretary of State, who is representing the President, in time of war, on behalf of a foreign power.

141 posted on 04/15/2002 4:56:20 PM PDT by ganesha
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To: reformjoy
For once in her mis-begotten existence, Hillary has decided to tell the truth. Rest assured it is not because of any newly self-discovered altruistic bent on her part towards the Nation Israel. The truth in this instance is merely a convenient vehicle by which to make President Bush look bad.

Unfortunately, I find myself agreeing with the content of the letter, yet that is not to say that I agree with its intent.

142 posted on 04/15/2002 4:56:28 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Lazamataz
Maybe if she wasn't so busy tongue-kissing Arafats pig of a wife last administration, we wouldn't have been in this mess!

She swaps spit with the father of terrorism's skank, NY stills elects the Beast. When she and Bubba were in the White House, they pardoned genuine explosive igniting terrorists, in addition to the Palestinian terrorists support, and only the firemen hate her. You would think that would be enough to make even New Yorkers see through the Clinton crap.

143 posted on 04/15/2002 4:59:47 PM PDT by putupon
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To: reformjoy;firebrand;starfan;n.y.muggs;racebannon;yehuda;nutmeg
Hillary is now questioning dealing with Arafat??? hahahaha...
144 posted on 04/15/2002 5:00:00 PM PDT by Dutchy
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To: finnman69
"... When Bush finally goes after Saddam Hussein, those same Rats will be forced to support going after Iraq. How can they support Israel crushing Arafat's terror buddies, but not the Evilest of the Evid Doers?"

"Bush has thought this out."

Very astute reasoning. We can only hope it is correct

145 posted on 04/15/2002 5:05:54 PM PDT by semaj
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To: GSWarrior
"Perhaps I'm being idealistic, but it would sure be nice if our elected officials could make decisions based on what's best for America, rather than dictate policy by setting "traps" for someone to fall into."

Well, when one doesn't usually take a knife to a gun fight... not if he wants to win.

All kidding aside, I have the same desires as you. But, in order to do the job, you have to stay in the game.

146 posted on 04/15/2002 5:07:54 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: desertcry; Libertina; Wphile; uncbob; Miss Marple; anniegetyourgun
The problem with the 'armchair' analysts here, is that they think too simply, unlike the President, who thinks with complexity, depth and nuance. He has been far ahead of the game in every instance since his Presidency began, playing the now proverbial chess while his enemies play checkers.

Libertina, I think Sullivan is on to something. The end game is Iraq. When (not if) that victory is achieved, the Middle East situation may well solve itself.

As to Hillary, she is as simple minded as some of the Bush critics around here. The only thing you have to know about her is that she is a consummate liar who's out for her own gain. When you understand that, nothing else about her is hard to figure out.

147 posted on 04/15/2002 5:13:18 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: ohioWfan
Hillary, and the Dems generally, are pi$$ing in the soup because they don't have a ladle. It's of a piece with the likes of Joe Lieberman calling for war on Araby out of one side of his mouth and no drilling in ANWR out of the other. It's all rhetoric for whatever interest group paid for the hall that day - they don't have to worry about the consequences of any particular course of action. Bush does.
148 posted on 04/15/2002 5:17:38 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Wphile
Don't forget that Clinton is a "damn failure" because of Arafat.
149 posted on 04/15/2002 5:18:02 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: reformjoy
HITLERY CLINTON
KISSES
ARAFAT'S
WIFE!
How dare this SOCIALIST feign to dictate to the Commander-in-Chief how to conduct foreign policy?!? She makes me sick.
150 posted on 04/15/2002 5:24:07 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Samwise
Yes, right you are.
151 posted on 04/15/2002 5:28:45 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: finnman69
Hmmmm...that's a good point. Hadn't thought of that one. I rather like it too!
152 posted on 04/15/2002 5:30:45 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: Argus
I don't always agree with Rush Limbaugh, but he has always said that the dims are most amusing when they are out of power because they become desperate. I truly believe this is what we're witnessing now, especially because of the continuing enormous popularity of President Bush.

The next 2 years could prove to be very interesting!

153 posted on 04/15/2002 5:35:27 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Libertina
Thanks for the link.
154 posted on 04/15/2002 5:39:32 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Well put, RD, well put!

The woman (?) is going to get her due sooner or later. She will not get away with her evil ways forever. Of that you can be sure.

155 posted on 04/15/2002 5:39:49 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: reformjoy
Hillary is a hypocrite, that is obvious.

The old saw about a stopped clock being right twice a day comes to mind.

156 posted on 04/15/2002 5:40:36 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: reformjoy
Amazing. A letter signed by those five people and not one word about registering guns in America. They're slipping.
157 posted on 04/15/2002 5:42:02 PM PDT by hattend
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I found this interesting article at glorywatch. As everything on the internet, it should be taken with a grain of salt, but I found it an interesting analysis.

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In response to the Passover Massacre, the IDF has invaded city after city, capturing terrorists, confiscating large caches of weapons and explosives, and destroying terrorist infrastructures. Prime Minister Sharon could wait no longer and went ahead and did Arafat's job for him.

Initially, President Bush sided with Israel saying that the Israeli government had a right to defend its people. But as time wore on, something changed, and President Bush publicly and gently began demanding that the IDF pull out immediately. And people began to speculate a rift was forming between the two leaders.

Let's begin with some basics. President Bush understands terror, Arafat's Islamic lust to destroy Israel and kill every Jew, and that an IDF pullout will result in more terrorism and more Israeli citizens being killed. President Bush is not one to ask Prime Minister Sharon to stand down while Israelis die, but apparently a compelling exception exists.

Analysts say that the Mubarak regime is under intense pressure to act militarily against Israel by its radical elements and may not survive the Israeli occupation of the West Bank. Milad Hanna sums up the present situation by saying, "But the wave is breaking and, in the end, President Bush won't be able to protect Mubarak"; when Mubarak falls, "President Bush will be shaken," knowing that the House of Saud will fall in its wake. One young Egyptian explained that they will fight Israel with or without their government.

The peasants are in a frenzy.

Pro-western alliances and a lack of military backing for the Palestinians by these governments appear to be the key factors for these uprising. In other words, the regimes in Saudi Arabia and Egypt both wish to live in peace with non-Muslim states, but their people don't. The younger Muslims were raised to hate Israel and are now confused as to why their governments don't do anything to stop Israel from attacking their Arab brothers in the West Bank.

With the fall of the World Trade Towers came dancing and celebrations through out Saudi Arabia. King Faud wasted no time in seeking exile for fear that his pro-western alliances made him a target of his own people. The House of Saud has been under ever increasing pressure and even violence from demonstrators since September 11th. With the clerics in charge of Saudi Arabia's education and religion, it is inevitable that the clerics will use the Saudi populous to overthrow the House of Saud in their quest to rule the peninsula. The question is not if, but when?

American foreign policy is the greatest benefactor of America's reliance on Saudi oil. This economic trade serves the greater role of giving America vast influence in the region and fending off the rise of Islamic fundamentalism by propping up of the moderate Saudi regime with American dollars. When America stops buying Saudi oil, the Arabian Peninsula begins its evolution into another Iran. And with it, the dominance America has enjoyed all of these years will disappear.

In Mubarak's case, perhaps he is already at the end of the game and sees only an exit strategy left to play out. Some suggest a change is overdue. A teetering Mubarak regime certainly explains reports of Israeli embassy families returning home from Cairo just a few days ago.

Reports suggest that Baghdad, Tehran, and Damascus will strike sooner rather than later against Israel to stir tensions and bring the moderates to an end. They go on to describe a war scenario this month, with an Iranian military exercise beginning next week that will end in a full naval blockade of the Straits or Hormuz and Iraqi missile attacks upon Israel. OPEC's rebuff of Iran's call to embargo America a few days back has laid the seeds for the Iranian navy imposing an embargo on OPEC by force. Such a move by the Iranian navy will be met with U.S. naval forces in the extreme, but by then it may be too late. The House of Saud may already have fallen by the time the shipping lanes reopen, and then a blockade will not be necessary. The spigots will be shut off at the source by the fundamentalists that rise up to replace the moderates.

Iraq is said to be readying to strike Israel so as to stir the waters that will accelerate the toppling of the moderates. This would give cause for immediate American action. But the moderates appear very fragile and it may be the assessment of the Bush Administration that they will fall in the wake of any American action in the Persian Gulf. There appears to be no stopping the inevitable. The moderates will fall and war will come. President Bush will have greater difficulty in justifying action in the Middle East if there are no other allies asking for our support besides Israel. And the presence of America will not be welcomed by any Arab states.

No doubt it would help President Bush's effort in bringing about a Middle East according to Bush if moderates continued to reign in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. But would it help the world if President Bush keeps terror hidden behind the façade of the Saudi government? Or would the world best be served by facing terror head on (as President Bush advocated before Congress), eliminating all trade with them, allowing the fundamentalist to rise up and show themselves for who they really are, and then destroying them in war ala-Afghanistan? After all, the Muslim populations of these states are doing exactly as President Bush demanded- they are choosing sides in the war against terror, howbeit a poor choice at that.

There is a saying, What you compromise to keep you will eventually lose. History bears this principle out with the Oslo Accords. Israel's willingness to compromise God's promise of Jewish ownership of the West Bank in exchange for the mere hope of peace in their lifetime has ensured that the hope of peace among Israelis is lost on this generation. One could easily predict that President Bush's compromising his fight against terrorists within Saudi Arabia in exchange to keep his influence upon the region will ensure an inevitable loss of American dominance in the region, and a far worse aftermath when the House of Saud finally comes crumbling down.

If it is time for the House of Saud to fall, then let it fall.

Fundamentalist Islam rising in Arab states will be met with fundamentalist Judaism rising in Israel. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and some of the newer figures in his sphere of influence are so sold out on the premise that the West Bank belongs to the Jews by divine promise that the West Bank will remain non-negotiable while they remain in power. And Arafat has done nothing but ensure that they remain in power for quite some time.

In fact, it would not be surprising to see Israel annex all of the West Bank as a result of Operation Defensive Shield. It is a physical impossibility for the IDF to determine which Palestinians are suicide bombers and which are innocent civilians. This is true with women also, now that women are filling the ranks of suicide bombers. Deportation of all Palestinians to remote points far from Israeli cities emulating the Indian-Pakistani separation is the only solution left to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And some of the new right wing hard liners advocate such action if and when the opportunity presents itself. And it may be presenting itself very soon if they have their way.

The epicenter of this rift between Prime Minister Sharon and President Bush is in the IDF's action in the West Bank. But below this epicenter is a very real and hidden danger posed to moderate Arab regimes, and along with them America's dominance in the Middle East. The evolution of the Middle East is unavoidable. America must simply ride out the quakes forecast months ago by Arab leaders.

In the end, President Bush is a man of God who will side with Israel, for his faith in The Lord Jesus Christ will not allow him to stand opposed to Prime Minister Sharon. This entire episode would appear on the surface to be nothing more than a moment of panic for the Bush Administration as they watch American dominance in the Middle East slip out of their hands. Level heads will regain control, and the war on terror will continue. And all rhetoric aside, the facts on the ground continue to demonstrate absolute support of Prime Minister Sharon's actions by the Bush Administration.

158 posted on 04/15/2002 5:42:31 PM PDT by I still care
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What do you make of this?
159 posted on 04/15/2002 5:45:42 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ratdog
I don't trust Bush too much either after he lied about the tax rebate from last year. Free and clear my foot. You had to deduct it from your taxes this time.

No, you didn't. It asked if you got it last year and if you didn't, and were qualified to get it, you were supposed to deduct it now.

It didn't cost you any more or less on April 15th.

160 posted on 04/15/2002 5:45:50 PM PDT by hattend
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