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American Indians Aren t Like Palestinians
Front Page Magazine ^ | 04/09/02 | David A Yeagley

Posted on 04/12/2002 9:25:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton

American Indians Aren’t Like Palestinians

FrontPageMagazine.com | April 9, 2002

MANY PEOPLE SEE A SIMILARITY BETWEEN American Indians and today’s Palestinians. I’m Comanche Indian. I see no similarity whatsoever.

Comanches were once "Lords of the South Plains," (Wallace & Hoebel, 1952). Arabs living in Palestine have never dominated anything but goats. Comanches were independent, and certainly not supported by two billion other Indian ‘brothers,’ like the Palestinian Arabs claim they’re supported by the Arab world.

There’s no similarity in the land claim issue. Comanches, never numbering more than six or seven thousand, were simply strong enough to take over the American southwestern plains, first from other Indians, then from white people. Palestinians have accomplished nothing but suicide bombings.

Palestinian Arabs are not indigenous to Palestine. They are leftover Arabs, residual of another age. Knowing Arab history is vital to understanding the situation in the Middle East. (Joan Peters’ From Time Immemorial (1984) is a ‘must read’ on this subject.)

Arabs are from Arabia. Beginning in AD 622, under Mohammad, Arab "prophet" of Medina, the Islamic religion became a war machine and aggressively expanded from the Arabian Peninsula to all directions until AD 750 when it controlled North Africa westward to Spain and southern France, northward to Palestine and Armenia, and eastward 400 miles past the Indus River.

It was spectacular achievement, one which clearly proved Islam to be not a religion of peace, but of dominance. Arabs intermarried, enslaved, and otherwise lorded over every culture they encountered. Arabs established the African and Asian slave routes, which are still used today for slave trade out of India and Nepal, as well as Africa and the Far East.

European Christians finally fended off Islamic dominance to the east and west. By the 15th century, Muslims were ousted from Spain and from most of the Balkans by the 17th century. Mongolians broke Islamic dominance in the Orient. The last phase of Islamic political dominance, the Ottoman Empire (Turkey), ended in 1840 when Constantinople submitted to terms of Western powers in its dispute with Egypt. Turkey’s government declared itself secular by 1922.

During all this time Palestine was little more than a wilderness of nomads, loosely associated groups of provincial subdivisions with frequently changing administrations. The people were a "pan-Arab" mix of gypsy-like leftovers, whom the General Syrian Congress of 1919 declared to be "the southern part of Syria." It wasn’t considered "Palestine," a separate Arab nationality, until the 1967 Six-Day War of Israel’s boundary expansions.

A ‘Palestinian Arab nationality’ was something Musa Alami began asserting after 1948, as a political reaction against Israel. As R. Sayigh wrote, "A strongly defined Palestinian identity did not emerge until 1968, two decades after the expulsion [of some Arabs living in parts of Palestine]," (Journal of Palestine Studies, 1977). In twenty years, Alami’s myth took effect.

But the land-by-residence claim gives Palestinian Arabs even less right. In 1950, United Nations Relief and Work Agency (UNRWA) defined a Palestinian Arab as one who had lived in Palestine a minimum of two years before 1948. This is no ancient claim.

The ancient, indigenous inhabitants of Palestine are long perished from the earth. Canaanites, Phoencians, and then Philistines, all were dominated by the Israelites before 1060 BC. Most of these cultural identities dissolved completely by the neo-Babylonian age, or, the 6th century BC.

Arabs weren’t even in Palestine until the mid-7th century AD, over a thousand years later, after Palestine’s 1,300-year Jewish history. Arabs later living in Palestine never developed themselves or the land, but remained nomadic and quasi-primitive during their 1,200-year stay.

Then a stronger people - modern Jews who’d been expelled from their homes in Europe and in Arab countries - came in and conquered (without annihilating) the Palestinian Arabs.

As a Comanche Indian, I’m sensitive to this history. I believe the conqueror has a right to what he has conquered. No one owns the land. Only he who is strong enough to possess it will control it and the people living on it. That’s the law of war.

Teddy Roosevelt once said, "Let sentimentalists say what they will, the man who puts the soil to use must of right dispossess the man who does not, or the world will come to a standstill." (W. T. Hagan, Theodore Roosevelt and Six Friends of the Indians, 1997). The land developers, the agrarians, have become stronger than the hunters.

In the case of Comanches, we lost a magnificent hunting empire, and a lot of ego with it. In the case of "Palestinian" Arabs, what is lost? Why their sense of humiliation?

Dr. David A. Yeagley teaches humanities at the College of Liberal Studies, University of Oklahoma. His opinions are independent. He holds degrees from Yale, Emory, Oberlin, University of Arizona and University of Hartford. He is a member of the Comanche Tribe, Lawton, OK. For more information on Dr. Yeagley's initiative to teach patriotism in the schools, click here. E-mail him at badeagle2000@yahoo.comView his website at http://www.badeagle.com.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: indian; israel; jews; palestinian
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1 posted on 04/12/2002 9:25:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: Kevin Curry
MANY PEOPLE SEE A SIMILARITY BETWEEN American Indians and today’s Palestinians.

Miss Cleo, eat your heart out.

Can I call them or what?

2 posted on 04/12/2002 9:27:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Andy from Beaverton
The Palestinian/Israeli issue is much more similar to the USA/illegal Mexican issue. Our infection point is our common border. Liberalism and a lack of political will allows the infection to flourish. And ironically, Democracy is the method which Mexicans...like Palestinians...exploit to gain political control. Palestinians have a much higher birth rate than Israelis (6:2.3). Their population is increasing faster that Israelis, so they will soon have a majority. The same tactic is being used in the Southwest USA. Look at the political scene of Texas and California. And those states are not exactly politically insignificant. It is a valid non violent political weapon. And it can happen if a country doesn't have the will to enforce it's laws and prevent it. Times are surely changing. This is not a judgement....but more an obsevation.
3 posted on 04/12/2002 9:58:26 AM PDT by hove
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To: Andy from Beaverton
While I agree with most of the essay (hard to argue against objective historical facts), there are a few caveats I would add. First, the jews were given the land by GOD (from the Mediterranean to the Euprates River). Second, no other nation has ever been wiped from their land only to appear 2,000 years later (1948) - this is evidence of Providence. Third, the Commanches as well as the majority of other native indian tribes were warlike and violent, and were not the innocent indiginous victims they are protrayed to be by revisionists. I could add much more, but this is enough for now.
4 posted on 04/12/2002 9:58:51 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Andy from Beaverton
In the case of "Palestinian" Arabs, what is lost? Why their sense of humiliation?

This conflict cannot be understood until one understands that the hostility is based in RELIGION. Period. This is a religious war, and the sooner everyone succumbs to this truth, the better.

5 posted on 04/12/2002 10:00:47 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Andy from Beaverton
"American Indians Aren’t Like Palestinians"

No, they're not. By and large, American Indians possessed honor.

6 posted on 04/12/2002 10:02:44 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: exmarine
First, the jews were given the land by GOD (from the Mediterranean to the Euprates River). Second, no other nation has ever been wiped from their land only to appear 2,000 years later (1948) - this is evidence of Providence.

well if the Big G says so I guess we all just better butter up and listen.

7 posted on 04/12/2002 10:11:57 AM PDT by gfactor
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To: gfactor
well if the Big G says so I guess we all just better butter up and listen.

That would be wise, but the arabs are not wise. There is other evidence of God's hand in this; namely, the miraculous victories by Israel over superior forces in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973. I hope all arabs take heed - ISAREAL WILL NEVER BE WIPED FROM THE LAND AGAIN. Any who do not take heed will continue suffer the grievous consequences for their hostile aggressions.

8 posted on 04/12/2002 10:28:30 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Very interesting!
9 posted on 04/12/2002 10:44:44 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: exmarine
First, the jews were given the land by GOD (from the Mediterranean to the Euprates River).

Question: Is there any difference between Israelites & Jews?

10 posted on 04/12/2002 11:00:41 AM PDT by Dixie republican
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Hey, BUMP for a great commentary!

Err...just off the top of my head, can I take it that the Muslim terrorists are back to the "we not so different, you and me. You might even be one of our lost tribes" tactic on Native Americans again, and the author is rebutting the notion...again?

The Arab fanatics have been trying to recruit Native Americans, using this tactic, at least once a decade since the '60's. I'm wondering if they're at it again.

11 posted on 04/12/2002 11:07:57 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: exmarine
You are correct.
12 posted on 04/12/2002 11:08:16 AM PDT by Lopeover
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To: Dixie republican
How is a "nation" defined? A nation is defined by etiher geography, culture, religion or language. What defined jewishness during the diaspora? I believe it was culture and religious heritage. The jewish people never stopped their religious rituals. While many of today's Israelis are secular, they are jews by heritage, if not culture, religion or language. Of course, the geneology can no longer be traced accurately back to the time of the Roman destruction of Judah, but the very existence of the ancient heritage is evidence that it has been passed down through the generations. By the way, there never has been a way for arabs to prove they are descended from Ishamael, and in fact, there are strong arguments against that claim (ever ready Robert Morey?).
13 posted on 04/12/2002 11:29:59 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
There is other evidence of God's hand in this; namely, the miraculous victories by Israel over superior forces in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973

if they're miraculous, then they wouldn't be studied as examples of strategic insight.

14 posted on 04/12/2002 11:31:30 AM PDT by gfactor
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To: exmarine
Aren't Jews supposed to be descended from Judah?
15 posted on 04/12/2002 12:40:04 PM PDT by Dixie republican
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To: exmarine
The genealogy can no longer be traced??? A study of DNA in Y-chromosomes showed genetic links among Jewish men of priestly descent. According to Jewish tradition these men are all descendants of Aaron. A fascinating piece of science.

See Priestly Gene Shared By Widely Dispersed Jews

and The Cohanim-DNA connection

For the technical details see Nature 394 (1998) 138-140 -- this is science not pseudoscience.

16 posted on 04/12/2002 1:01:50 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: exmarine
Of course, the geneology can no longer be traced accurately back to the time of the Roman destruction of Judah, but the very existence of the ancient heritage is evidence that it has been passed down through the generations.

Not exactly, there is a DNA marker shared by Jews claiming descent from Aaron, the brother of Moses.

17 posted on 04/12/2002 1:05:53 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: Andy from Beaverton
If the Palestinians are really like the American Indians,
then the best way to settle the dispute
is to let the Palestinians run all the casinos in Israel.
18 posted on 04/12/2002 1:07:41 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Dixie republican
Aren't Jews supposed to be descended from Judah?

Jews are descended from all 12 tribes, not just Judah.

19 posted on 04/12/2002 1:43:46 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: Alouette
Thanks for the info.
20 posted on 04/12/2002 1:44:44 PM PDT by exmarine
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