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Vatican outrage over church siege
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| April 8 2002
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Posted on 04/10/2002 2:52:46 AM PDT by Khepry
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posted on
04/10/2002 2:52:46 AM PDT
by
Khepry
To: Khepry
Funny the Vatican is not outraged by the invasion of the church by satanic forces. As if sieging the church to rid of this evil that has invaded the body was a bad thing the church should not support.
But in the end, isn't there two sides to this conflict? Isn't the Vatican responsible for not defining one side or the other, let alone take a side, save for God's side? A militantist Vatican is an evil that is asking for it.
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posted on
04/10/2002 2:57:44 AM PDT
by
lavaroise
To: Khepry
Israel had broken its international obligations and risked "long-term and incalculable" consequences, Father David Jaeger said. Urging the world to carry out consequences, death threats on Israel. What a bunch of barbarians.
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posted on
04/10/2002 2:59:00 AM PDT
by
lavaroise
To: Khepry
violence in the Holy Land as having reached "unimaginable and intolerable" levels. Nice to point the violence at the Holy Land, without pointing the violence in the Vatican and Europe itself, this savagery of definitional politics and media lead Jerry Springer like revolutionary body slams.
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:01:06 AM PDT
by
lavaroise
To: lavaroise
Protect our holy sites or, or, we'll turn our homo priests loose to molest more kids?
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:08:05 AM PDT
by
dc-zoo
To: dc-zoo
low blow, but after the papal diatribe... low blows are apparently now queensbury...
Does the Vatican speak for the Pope? If so, then this is clear proof that the Pope can make mistakes in his judgements and statements. I'm sorry if that offends, but to so blatently ignore and legitimize by silence the atrocities and original desecration by the Palestinians, and then to blast the Israeli's for responding, makes no sense whatsoever. Such a position cannot be explained as just. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but the Vatican is clearly(and in this case shamefully) wrong.
"Free Barabas".
To: dc-zoo
I guess what you're saying is that the existence of some bad apples in the priesthood means that all Catholic priests should be maligned, our churches should be destroyed and the Vatican should never utter another word about anything, right? Normally, I'd ignore your brand of garbage, but I've been up all night doing my taxes, and I'm not in a great mood.
To: Havoc; Prodigal Daughter
A spokesman for Catholic monks in the Holy Land said earlier that Israeli soldiers were guilty of an "indescribable act of barbarity". Look! The RCC is accusing the Israelis of barbarity. My, my, my!
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:21:22 AM PDT
by
2sheep
To: dc-zoo
Filth.
To: 2sheep
The indescribable act of barbarity is not mentioned in the article, so the quote does not make sense. What they are griping about is this - the body of the Palestinian, who died trying to put out the fire, is still there. The monks offered to take the body out, and the dead man's family are anxious to recieve it. But the Israelis won't let them. The body is beginning to show signs of decomposition.
To: lavaroise
without pointing the violence in the Vatican and Europe itself, this savagery of definitional politics Like the violence of the Inquisition or the Hundred Years War - right.
Or perhaps a little closer to our time the Nazi Holocaust or the cleansing of the Warsaw Ghetto by the Germans - sort of let's round up the Jewish rebels who no longer obey the Jewish police when they tried to march their brothers onto the Death Trains.
Opps, I broke the cardinal rule of civilized behavior - Thou shalt not compare Israel and the Germans lest the Lord God Almighty note the hypocrisy and start to chuckle at the blindness of the Chosen race. Those guys were Barbarians, now we are Warriors against Evil, no matter who we have to repay.
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:35:41 AM PDT
by
Khepry
To: Khepry
Terrorists inside a church in Bethlehem??....Hey why not Vatican't it works in America.
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:42:01 AM PDT
by
PGalt
To: irishjuggler
You're not totally alone here:
1. The actions of the Israelis at the church are reprehensible...it is putting me over the impartiality edge.
2. The whole priest scandal is horrible...but its only connection to this is that it takes away from the church's moral authority to deal with issues where its former moral authority could help.
I deplore the loss of life, Jewish, Christian, Arab, unaligned. And no one life is any more or less important than another. The world situation is horrible. And rhetoric that denigrates all Palestinians and maligns their decency and aspirations as a national group is not helping the situation.
(Done with those taxes?)
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:42:50 AM PDT
by
grania
To: irishjuggler
I am catholic, and this is my call.
The church didn't have much sucess in keeping the jews alive in WWII, so it really needs to keep it's mouth shut, except if it wants to condemn the killers of innocents with suicide bombers, and let the Israelis make the place safe for them to live in.
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:55:49 AM PDT
by
dreadme
To: Khepry
I see that Roman Catholic anti-semitism is still alive and well.
BUMP
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:56:40 AM PDT
by
tm22721
To: Khepry
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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posted on
04/10/2002 3:59:34 AM PDT
by
arielb
To: BlackVeil
Oh, I rather suspect there's a whole lot more terror and murder that the IDF has committed to offend the fine sensibilities of the priests.
Since the Sabra and Shatilla massacres (1982 about 1000-2000 murdered by Phalangist with IDF cooperation), Kibya villiage (1953 where Fore 101 under Sharon's command drove 53 civilians into their homes before blowing them up) and Dier Yassin massacres (1948 about 254 dead including 145 women, 35 who were pergnant were murdered by Menachem Begin's terrorist group) all tend to suggest that the IDF has a track record of barbarism and murder.
Why can't Sharon pull out of the West bank now? Gotta make good and sure that those rotting bodies seen lying in a sheet get good and buried this time.
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posted on
04/10/2002 4:01:37 AM PDT
by
Khepry
To: grania
(Done with those taxes?)
Yeah, but I'll have to recopy it all neatly tomorrow night. Seven forms and twelve hours of work for a lousy $400 refund. The tax code should be abolished!
To: Khepry
The Vatican has issued a stern warning to Israel to respect religious sitesGiven that Palestinean terrorists are occupying the Church of The Nativity, this statement is completely insane.
The vast majority of Catholics and Christians know who's at fault here, and that the Vatican is out to lunch on this one.
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posted on
04/10/2002 4:06:13 AM PDT
by
angkor
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