Bush pullout demands make him target of Israeli ire

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[SunStar]

Oh, please. Unless you are GW Bush himself, stop parading as some political "strategerist".

Unless you are GW Bush himself, you cannot rule my theory out.

[SunStar]

His condemnation of Israel will only enbolden Arab states and that will lead to a much bigger war, one in which Bush will be traped by his own words into supporting the terrorists against Isreal. I have never seen dumber policy, only Jimmy Charter gives Bush competition for being clueless.

I hear you.

Yours is just another opinion. However, I disagree completely.

[SunStar]

Post number 36 says it all...

[gunshy]

Here we go again with the "isn't Bush clever" routines. The man is as much of an embarrassment as Clinton when clinton bombed the aspirin factory. Bush is a wuss and he doesn't have any ideas about what to do or when to do it. What happened in Afghanistan? Are we done there, do we have an exit plan? What's next? He hasn't got the faintest idea.

[luvzhottea]

Things change are changing.

[SunStar]

Bush and the US look like absolute idiots and we're supposed to believe and still back this faux president.

You sound like a leftist. Good job.

[Robert_Paulson2]

regional war. count on it. we are.

[SunStar]

Bush is a wuss and he doesn't have any ideas about what to do or when to do it. What happened in Afghanistan? Are we done there, do we have an exit plan? What's next? He hasn't got the faintest idea.

Okay, Mr. Armchair General... What would YOU do? (As if it matters.)

[veronica]

Ah the sheeple believe everything they read in the Leftwing press. Course this is nothing compared to what the 'Arab street' is doing now. Burning Bush in effigy, and...

[veronica]

Did you notice Bush rejected the Arab UN resolution last night?

He called it 'Resolution Fatigue.' Funny.

[gunshy]

Since you asked. I would tell Israel to go for it and that The US supports their efforts all the way. As far as the rest of the arab states are concerned, I would pull all our military out of the area and let them deal with each other. I would tell them that we are still willing to buy their oil at reasonable prices and, if they don't wish to, let them drink their own oil and tell the american people that it is time to ration oil until we can develope our own supplies. The largest field of known oil reserves in the world is in the gulf of mexico. I know this isn't all that needs to be done, but it's a start and it's a hell of a lot better than what GWB is doing.

[cake_crumb]

"The man is as much of an embarrassment as Clinton when clinton bombed the aspirin factory."

That is easily the most ridiculous and unsubstantiated allegation I've read since coming back online.

"Bush is a wuss and he doesn't have any ideas about what to do or when to do it."

Refer my reply to the first item.

"What happened in Afghanistan?"

We whacked the Taliban.

"Are we done there,"

No.

"...do we have an exit plan?"

Yes.

"What's next?"

We'll find out as soon as the psyche warfare stage is over who is the real target.

"He hasn't got the faintest idea."

In truth, YOU'RE the one who seems not to have the faintest idea, because you have far more questions than answers.

[RamsNo1]

I wonder how many times Powell will have to kiss Arafat's butt before he gets fatigued. Correction--I'm sure that Powell wants to kiss Arafat's butt.

[Brimack34]

It is time we cut and run. I will take a piece of that 3 billion for Israeli and add the 1 or 2 billion form Egypt. Have at it boys we will see who is left after the fighting.

[america-rules]

"Since you asked. I would tell Israel to go for it and that The US supports their efforts all the way. As far as the rest of the arab states are concerned, I would pull all our military out of the area and let them deal with each other. I would tell them that we are still willing to buy their oil at reasonable prices and, if they don't wish to, let them drink their own oil and tell the american people that it is time to ration oil until we can develope our own supplies. The largest field of known oil reserves in the world is in the gulf of mexico. I know this isn't all that needs to be done, but it's a start and it's a hell of a lot better than what GWB is doing."

Now General, list all the repercussions of you decision. As you know any Good General can tell the commander in chief all the repercussions for all the actions he/she recommends !

I bet after you get done with your list you will rethink your recommendation ?

[gunshy]

We are already in the earlier days of WWIII. What repercussions are you talking about?

During a war, people have to make sacrifices, people die. Been there done that. If necessary we go to a wartime economy, so be it. If nothing else it will help the american people to develope a backbone and an understanding that they have to stand up and take care of themselves.

I have faith in the american people and I believe that we will survive as a nation far stronger than we are today.

You talk of repercussions, what repercussions, maybe the EU countries will not like us, hell they don't like us now. Maybe that we will have to fight china, that's going to happen anyway. What bad things will befall us in your opinion.

[cake_crumb]

German WWII references because I'm "backed" into "a corner"??? Adolf WAS Yasser's uncle. Nothing will change that. He is a terrorist. He and his state run media routinely incite hatred and violence. He is a dictator. A TERRORIST dictator. Nothing will change that either. Not even a Nobel Peace Prize.

Eyes wide open: the West cannot afford to abandon Israel. The president knows that. It is therefore highly unlikely that the US will abandon Israel. In a perfect world, no statesman would pay lip service enemy states in the name of diplomacy. Of course, in a perfect world, there wouldn't be terrorists.

I don't know what polls you're talking about that take Israel's side. Certainly not Zogby. Perhaps it's the Palestinian grenaders who're changing public opinion against themselves.

[Ancesthntr]

Haven't we seen that script before?

Are you referring to these events or my take on them?

Your optimism regarding Bush and Powell's motives is unwarranted.

What exactly has Bush done to earn such optimism?

Regarding Powell's motives - I could care less. He takes orders from Bush.

Regarding Bush, I freely admit that you could be right. Maybe everything is exactly as it appears, that Bush is little better than Clinton or his father in appeasing the Arabs and terrorists. I pray that I'm wrong, or we are in big trouble.

However, things are rarely as they appear in public, particularly with regard to politicians or military strategy. Something is missing - Bush can't be that bad, not after what he ordered in Afghanistan. He has some pretty smart people around him that happen to be hardliners in favor of action by Israel, namely Cheney and Rumsfeld. The fact is that taking the stand he has publicly has, and will continue to, undermine our efforts against terrorists. I find it hard to believe that Bush doesn't know this, that he would allow his ace in the hole vs. the Dems to just disappear by acting like Clinton. He's too intelligent, contrary to the claims of the presstitutes. You don't get to be President if you are a dunce. It does, however, help to have your enemies underestimate you.

This is just too obvious, too easy for the bad guys to have the US really pressuring Israel as we have been. There is something going on that we don't know about yet.